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It's like... 70% fresh squeezed. The fruit is chopped up into smaller pieces, so for the most part there isn't much difference, and it is very new fruit. But

It's like... 70% fresh squeezed. The fruit is chopped up into smaller pieces, so for the most part there isn't much difference, and it is very new fruit. But to the target demographic 70% might as well be 0%.

wickawic 9y ago
People might have a misconception about the machine then. I had heard that the juice was easy enough to extract from the pack that you could do it with your hands. This gave me the idea that the pack basically just had juice in it already.
- microcolonel 9y ago
  It does, it is shredded vegetation in a bag which is squeezed by an amazingly overengineered solid steel screw press with giant, beautiful one-piece plastic moldings on the back. It is also true that you can extract the vast majority of the fluid without the press just fine. It is not "chopped" into "smaller" pieces, but literally shredded.
  - hwillis 9y ago
    Nope; check it out: https://vimeo.com/214030931 https://vimeo.com/214030931 That's mostly carrot (+lemon and orange) but still it's very dry. See also AvE's video[1] where he opens a bag and its full of processed but still largely intact pomegranate. You can squeeze most of a first glass out by hand[2] but that's about it. To get the rest out a press really is necessary- but Juicero isn't just a press. It's massive machined aluminum billets and expensive gears and a custom motor. The huge aluminum parts are likely the biggest cost sink- hundreds of dollars, easily. If they had made the things out of extrusions they could have saved 80%+ on the cost. Just goofy all around. edit: also this... enthusiastic gentleman, who is pretty enthusiastic about the contents of the bag[3] [1]: https://youtu.be/_Cp-BGQfpHQ?t=30m6s https://youtu.be/_Cp-BGQfpHQ?t=30m6s [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lutHF5HhVA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lutHF5HhVA [3]: https://youtu.be/wOmB7H6meUQ?t=22m3s https://youtu.be/wOmB7H6meUQ?t=22m3s
    - microcolonel 9y ago
      > Nope I don't know about you, but that cleanly fits my definition of "shredded". > edit: also this... enthusiastic gentleman, who is pretty enthusiastic about the contents of the bag[3] Yeah, discountjuicers.com guy is a real hoot. Good info too.
    - subcosmos 9y ago
      He says in the video, "Ain't no kill like overkill" LMAO
- dopamean 9y ago
  I think you're right. The Bloomberg video clearly shows someone just squeezing the back with their hands and juice comes out.
Justin_K 9y ago
Once you cut open fruit and vegetables, the elements and bacteria are introduced and they start to break down.
- Fnoord 9y ago
  And you're removing all the fibers as well.
- hwillis 9y ago
  I'm sure it's processed under an inert atmosphere and whatever yadda yadda new age bullshit. It's all woo anyway. Point being is it's not just a juice bag- they do at least have good intentions/make a show of having good intentions.
- djur 9y ago
  Which is why the bags have a super short shelf life and the machine has a barcode scanner that will detect and refuse to squeeze expired bags. They touted this as a feature, of course.
  - thanksgiving 9y ago
    It is a feature (only) if they send you a replacement for free (with free shipping and everything) if you sent them a picture of the expired packet.
    - infinite8s 9y ago
      Why even need to send a picture? Each package is barcoded and the machine is internet connected. As soon as it was rejected it should schedule delivery of a replacement packet.
      - thanksgiving 9y ago
        Sorry because I forgot that the juicer is connected to the Internet. Don't get me wrong I love technology but my first thought is we need failsafe backups (:

wickawic 9y ago

People might have a misconception about the machine then. I had heard that the juice was easy enough to extract from the pack that you could do it with your hands. This gave me the idea that the pack basically just had juice in it already.

microcolonel 9y ago
It does, it is shredded vegetation in a bag which is squeezed by an amazingly overengineered solid steel screw press with giant, beautiful one-piece plastic moldings on the back. It is also true that you can extract the vast majority of the fluid without the press just fine. It is not "chopped" into "smaller" pieces, but literally shredded.
- hwillis 9y ago
  Nope; check it out: https://vimeo.com/214030931 https://vimeo.com/214030931 That's mostly carrot (+lemon and orange) but still it's very dry. See also AvE's video[1] where he opens a bag and its full of processed but still largely intact pomegranate. You can squeeze most of a first glass out by hand[2] but that's about it. To get the rest out a press really is necessary- but Juicero isn't just a press. It's massive machined aluminum billets and expensive gears and a custom motor. The huge aluminum parts are likely the biggest cost sink- hundreds of dollars, easily. If they had made the things out of extrusions they could have saved 80%+ on the cost. Just goofy all around. edit: also this... enthusiastic gentleman, who is pretty enthusiastic about the contents of the bag[3] [1]: https://youtu.be/_Cp-BGQfpHQ?t=30m6s https://youtu.be/_Cp-BGQfpHQ?t=30m6s [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lutHF5HhVA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lutHF5HhVA [3]: https://youtu.be/wOmB7H6meUQ?t=22m3s https://youtu.be/wOmB7H6meUQ?t=22m3s
  - microcolonel 9y ago
    > Nope I don't know about you, but that cleanly fits my definition of "shredded". > edit: also this... enthusiastic gentleman, who is pretty enthusiastic about the contents of the bag[3] Yeah, discountjuicers.com guy is a real hoot. Good info too.
  - subcosmos 9y ago
    He says in the video, "Ain't no kill like overkill" LMAO
dopamean 9y ago
I think you're right. The Bloomberg video clearly shows someone just squeezing the back with their hands and juice comes out.

Justin_K 9y ago

Once you cut open fruit and vegetables, the elements and bacteria are introduced and they start to break down.

Fnoord 9y ago
And you're removing all the fibers as well.
hwillis 9y ago
I'm sure it's processed under an inert atmosphere and whatever yadda yadda new age bullshit. It's all woo anyway. Point being is it's not just a juice bag- they do at least have good intentions/make a show of having good intentions.
djur 9y ago
Which is why the bags have a super short shelf life and the machine has a barcode scanner that will detect and refuse to squeeze expired bags. They touted this as a feature, of course.
- thanksgiving 9y ago
  It is a feature (only) if they send you a replacement for free (with free shipping and everything) if you sent them a picture of the expired packet.
  - infinite8s 9y ago
    Why even need to send a picture? Each package is barcoded and the machine is internet connected. As soon as it was rejected it should schedule delivery of a replacement packet.
    - thanksgiving 9y ago
      Sorry because I forgot that the juicer is connected to the Internet. Don't get me wrong I love technology but my first thought is we need failsafe backups (: