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this is another teardown with a similar conclusion https://blog.bolt.io/heres-why-juicero-s-press-is-so-expensive-6add74594e50 https://blog.bolt.io/heres-why-j

by x0x0 9y ago

this is another teardown with a similar conclusion https://blog.bolt.io/heres-why-juicero-s-press-is-so-expensive-6add74594e50 https://blog.bolt.io/heres-why-juicero-s-press-is-so-expensi...

trendia 9y ago
I love how Bolt.io tore down a pair of Beats headphones and came to the opposite conclusion -- that they were a ripoff and that the components inside in no way justified the pricetag. But, take a look at the quality of the internals of Juicero vs. Beats headphones and realize that one of the companies is worth $1.5B while the other is shutting down.
- to3m 9y ago
  I think you mean "so", not "but" :)
- JimDabell 9y ago
  That "Beats" teardown was with a counterfeit pair of headphones. Even so, I don't think a large difference between the BOM and the price the consumer pays is necessarily a ripoff. There's more to a product than simply how much it costs to manufacture.
  - Laforet 9y ago
    The counterfeit pair probably had a more reasonable frequency response than the genuine product it was trying to imitate, so much for Beat's famous distorted bass.
  - kuschku 9y ago
    > Even so, I don't think a large difference between the BOM and the price the consumer pays is necessarily a ripoff. Actually, in some jurisdictions, if that difference goes over 12.5% of the paid price, and the customer is not specifically informed about this (and about potential cheaper competitors), the contract is not valid.
    - JimDabell 9y ago
      I've not heard of that before. Where is this?
      - kuschku 9y ago
        Germany used to have laws similar to this for centuries (also in terms of a limit of how high interest could be, and a general profit limit, see "Wucher"), but many parts of these rules have been removed over the decades and centuries.
dsfyu404ed 9y ago
Holy crap. That's the kind of thing I expect from undergrads who don't know what COTS stands for. Like how do you convince yourself that this is a sane design for something more than a prototype? Using more off the shelf stuff might result a little more weight and a higher overall part count but the cost savings would be huge.

by x0x0 9y ago

this is another teardown with a similar conclusion https://blog.bolt.io/heres-why-juicero-s-press-is-so-expensive-6add74594e50 https://blog.bolt.io/heres-why-juicero-s-press-is-so-expensi...

trendia 9y ago

I love how Bolt.io tore down a pair of Beats headphones and came to the opposite conclusion -- that they were a ripoff and that the components inside in no way justified the pricetag. But, take a look at the quality of the internals of Juicero vs. Beats headphones and realize that one of the companies is worth $1.5B while the other is shutting down.

to3m 9y ago
I think you mean "so", not "but" :)
JimDabell 9y ago
That "Beats" teardown was with a counterfeit pair of headphones. Even so, I don't think a large difference between the BOM and the price the consumer pays is necessarily a ripoff. There's more to a product than simply how much it costs to manufacture.
- Laforet 9y ago
  The counterfeit pair probably had a more reasonable frequency response than the genuine product it was trying to imitate, so much for Beat's famous distorted bass.
- kuschku 9y ago
  > Even so, I don't think a large difference between the BOM and the price the consumer pays is necessarily a ripoff. Actually, in some jurisdictions, if that difference goes over 12.5% of the paid price, and the customer is not specifically informed about this (and about potential cheaper competitors), the contract is not valid.
  - JimDabell 9y ago
    I've not heard of that before. Where is this?
    - kuschku 9y ago
      Germany used to have laws similar to this for centuries (also in terms of a limit of how high interest could be, and a general profit limit, see "Wucher"), but many parts of these rules have been removed over the decades and centuries.

dsfyu404ed 9y ago

Holy crap. That's the kind of thing I expect from undergrads who don't know what COTS stands for. Like how do you convince yourself that this is a sane design for something more than a prototype? Using more off the shelf stuff might result a little more weight and a higher overall part count but the cost savings would be huge.