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> Did you just call pressed veggies and fruits sugary drinks? Pressed fruits at least, are sugary drinks. Anyone who's calorie conscious is probably wary (as a

> Did you just call pressed veggies and fruits sugary drinks? Pressed fruits at least, are sugary drinks. Anyone who's calorie conscious is probably wary (as a calorie counter I know I am).

nxsynonym 9y ago
yup pressing/blending fruits destroys any nutritional value. You're left with basically sugar water. Yes it's "natural sugar", but it's still not the healthy food people make it out to be.
- pvg 9y ago
  Wouldn't chewing fruit destroy all nutritional value as well, if that were true?
  - neaden 9y ago
    You eat the fiber when you chew the fruit, when you press it the fiber is left in the pouch.
    - pvg 9y ago
      Surely fiber is not the totality of nutritional value in fruit nor is a pouch some kind of magical fiber eliminator.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > yup pressing/blending fruits destroys any nutritional value. Pressing (but not blending) leaves some of the good bits (including bits that mitigate some of the adverse effects of sugars) behind, but it does not destroy the nutritional value, as many of the important micronutrients of the fruit are retained in the juice. Hyperbole isn't helpful here.
  - nxsynonym 9y ago
    You're correct, I mixed up pressing and blending. My bad. Either way - an all fruit diet is not healthy or balanced. And as far as I can tell, whole fruits are still better for your health then pressed/blended/squeezed. Relevant : https://www.wired.com/2015/04/nobody-can-prove-cold-pressed-juice-better/ https://www.wired.com/2015/04/nobody-can-prove-cold-pressed-...
- matthewmacleod 9y ago
  yup pressing/blending fruits destroys any nutritional value That is utter nonsense. Yes, whole fruit is healthier than blended fruit or juice. No, that does not mean there is no nutritional value.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    Why is whole better than blended? Assuming you blend everything that you'd otherwise eat, that is.
    - matthewmacleod 9y ago
      My understanding was that blending caused insoluble fibre to be less effective, but I might actually have been wrong about that. I would expect blending however to increase the adsorption speed of fruit sugar and affect blood sugar levels more rapidly, which might be somewhat negative. It’s certainly not as clear-cut as I thought, and I reckon smoothies are probably still pretty good if you aren’t overdoing it!
andreasgonewild 9y ago
Eating them whole is even better. But calling pressed fruit the same thing as the poisonous crap they would rather have us drink isn't helping anyone. It's clearly not the same thing.
- revmoo 9y ago
  Yes, it basically is the same thing. Go lookup sucrose on Wikipedia.
- jjuel 9y ago
  Are you saying that sugar is good for you depending on the source? Sugar is terrible for you no matter what. If you have a juice with the juice of say 5 apples is not healthy. That is 5 servings of the sugar with almost 0 of the fiber. It is just as poisonous as a sugary soda or other sugary drink.
  - zwetan 9y ago
    Your view on sugar is wrong and quite dangerous. First, human beings need sugar to survive, yep it's like water, without sugar you die, in particular your muscle and your brain. There are good and bad sugar, artificial sugar in food and drink sure are terrible for the health, but you also have natural sugar like fructose in fruits, lactose in milk, etc. those are good. You definitively can not say that apple juice is poisonous like sugary soda. Those are not the same type of sugar.
    - icebraining 9y ago
      You should qualify what you mean by "artificial sugar" and why you believe those are "bad" and fructose is "good". Sucrose, the most commonly used table sugar and food addictive, is a mix of glucose and fructose, and occurs naturally in plants (like sugar cane).
- tengbretson 9y ago
  Who on earth is the "they" that you are referring to here?

> Did you just call pressed veggies and fruits sugary drinks? Pressed fruits at least, are sugary drinks. Anyone who's calorie conscious is probably wary (as a calorie counter I know I am).

nxsynonym 9y ago

yup pressing/blending fruits destroys any nutritional value. You're left with basically sugar water. Yes it's "natural sugar", but it's still not the healthy food people make it out to be.

pvg 9y ago
Wouldn't chewing fruit destroy all nutritional value as well, if that were true?
- neaden 9y ago
  You eat the fiber when you chew the fruit, when you press it the fiber is left in the pouch.
  - pvg 9y ago
    Surely fiber is not the totality of nutritional value in fruit nor is a pouch some kind of magical fiber eliminator.
dragonwriter 9y ago
> yup pressing/blending fruits destroys any nutritional value. Pressing (but not blending) leaves some of the good bits (including bits that mitigate some of the adverse effects of sugars) behind, but it does not destroy the nutritional value, as many of the important micronutrients of the fruit are retained in the juice. Hyperbole isn't helpful here.
- nxsynonym 9y ago
  You're correct, I mixed up pressing and blending. My bad. Either way - an all fruit diet is not healthy or balanced. And as far as I can tell, whole fruits are still better for your health then pressed/blended/squeezed. Relevant : https://www.wired.com/2015/04/nobody-can-prove-cold-pressed-juice-better/ https://www.wired.com/2015/04/nobody-can-prove-cold-pressed-...
matthewmacleod 9y ago
yup pressing/blending fruits destroys any nutritional value That is utter nonsense. Yes, whole fruit is healthier than blended fruit or juice. No, that does not mean there is no nutritional value.
- icebraining 9y ago
  Why is whole better than blended? Assuming you blend everything that you'd otherwise eat, that is.
  - matthewmacleod 9y ago
    My understanding was that blending caused insoluble fibre to be less effective, but I might actually have been wrong about that. I would expect blending however to increase the adsorption speed of fruit sugar and affect blood sugar levels more rapidly, which might be somewhat negative. It’s certainly not as clear-cut as I thought, and I reckon smoothies are probably still pretty good if you aren’t overdoing it!

andreasgonewild 9y ago

Eating them whole is even better. But calling pressed fruit the same thing as the poisonous crap they would rather have us drink isn't helping anyone. It's clearly not the same thing.

revmoo 9y ago
Yes, it basically is the same thing. Go lookup sucrose on Wikipedia.
jjuel 9y ago
Are you saying that sugar is good for you depending on the source? Sugar is terrible for you no matter what. If you have a juice with the juice of say 5 apples is not healthy. That is 5 servings of the sugar with almost 0 of the fiber. It is just as poisonous as a sugary soda or other sugary drink.
- zwetan 9y ago
  Your view on sugar is wrong and quite dangerous. First, human beings need sugar to survive, yep it's like water, without sugar you die, in particular your muscle and your brain. There are good and bad sugar, artificial sugar in food and drink sure are terrible for the health, but you also have natural sugar like fructose in fruits, lactose in milk, etc. those are good. You definitively can not say that apple juice is poisonous like sugary soda. Those are not the same type of sugar.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    You should qualify what you mean by "artificial sugar" and why you believe those are "bad" and fructose is "good". Sucrose, the most commonly used table sugar and food addictive, is a mix of glucose and fructose, and occurs naturally in plants (like sugar cane).
tengbretson 9y ago
Who on earth is the "they" that you are referring to here?