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Congrats, guys! I have to say, though, while you were busy inching towards 1.0 I've fallen in love with other production-ready NoSQL db's (namely Mongo and Cas

by waxman 16y ago

Congrats, guys! I have to say, though, while you were busy inching towards 1.0 I've fallen in love with other production-ready NoSQL db's (namely Mongo and Cassandra). I'm excited to play with Couch, just to play with it, but as someone who is already very satisfied with other NoSQL technologies (when I need them), what would be your pitch for why I should give Couch a serious look?

couchdb 16y ago
I've got truly offline replication (as in you can run me on Android and your laptop and keep them synced via the cloud). Also, none of the other NoSQLs are really set up for schemaless queries like I am. Incremental map-reduce lets you normalize a bunch of different heterogenous document structures in your view, which is more flexible than the key-path indexes Mongo has, and more real-time than Hadoop/Google style map reduce.
- seiji 16y ago
  Your novelty account is creepy.
  - jchrisa 16y ago
    It all started here: http://twitter.com/couchdb http://twitter.com/couchdb I imagine by the time we get the 23andMe account it'll be really creepy. ;)
- blueberry 16y ago
  I hope someone creates mongodb account and responds to your comment. Nothing better to follow than hot, fierce war between databases. Keep'em coming! May the best prevail!
- aschobel 16y ago
  Offline on Android support sounds really amazing. I'm poking around DroidCouch and only see a wrapper for the CouchDB REST API: http://github.com/sig/DroidCouch http://github.com/sig/DroidCouch Should I be looking at another project for offline support?
  - couchdb 16y ago
    You can get my Android installer here: http://www.couch.io/android http://www.couch.io/android Remember it's only a developer preview, but it should be fully-functional. Requires Android 2.1 or 2.2
  - deleted 16y ago
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bitdiddle 16y ago
couch hits a number of sweet spots. Documents can have attachments so you can build a complete application out of html,css, and javascript and have the entire app reside in a couch database. Coupled with P2P replication this make for some interesting possibilities. couch also inherits a lot from it's choice of implementation language, Erlang, and it's append-only storage design. A high level functional language such as Erlang makes for a small manageable code base. So if you want to extend or enhance it there's not as much to get your arms around as you would have in C++. On the other if you're a web programmer or could just otherwise care less about db internals, the JSON based RESTful API is all you need and there's a client already out there for just about every language I can think of except maybe Rebol. I've been poking at it for a couple of years now and one thing I have to say is that it is really truly rock solid. Moreover it has an active and supportive community and at least two companies building businesses around it, Cloudant and couch.io, both of which boast committers to the project.
- oconnor0 16y ago
  Are there any examples of applications being wholly hosted inside Couch?
  - amock 16y ago
    See http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1515315 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1515315
  - jchrisa 16y ago
    see http://couchapp.org http://couchapp.org
  - bitdiddle 16y ago
    there's also one of my favorites, Swinger, http://c.ixxr.net/swinger/_design/swinger/index.html#/ http://c.ixxr.net/swinger/_design/swinger/index.html#/ which is like powerpoint except it's free and it works. It's great for pitching to folks
  - necubi 16y ago
    The admin program (at http://localhost:5984/_utils http://localhost:5984/_utils if couch is installed and running) is such a program.
gmjosack 16y ago
I think we have different definitions of "production-ready." I find Cassandra to considerably immature having weird bugs that cause it to outright crash and both Cassandra and Mongo have seen issues from many people with data loss. Yes, people are using these systems in production but they're both still young and immature and it is in everyone's best interest to continue to evaluate possible solutions that are coming out.
- couchdb 16y ago
  I've been in production without issue for years in some installations. I probably could have raised the "production-ready" flag in 2008/2009 if I held myself to the same standards as a lot of projects.
  - jamii 16y ago
    In both my last job (latexsearch.com) and my current job (smarkets.com) I've worked with couchdb in fairly large scale installations. I haven't experienced a single bug nor had any couchdb-related performance problems. It's pretty solid.
- masomenos 16y ago
  ". . .Mongo have seen issues from many people with data loss" Have any citations for data loss happening in a release version of mongo, with the recommended configuration (at least 1 slave)?

by waxman 16y ago

couchdb 16y ago

I've got truly offline replication (as in you can run me on Android and your laptop and keep them synced via the cloud). Also, none of the other NoSQLs are really set up for schemaless queries like I am. Incremental map-reduce lets you normalize a bunch of different heterogenous document structures in your view, which is more flexible than the key-path indexes Mongo has, and more real-time than Hadoop/Google style map reduce.

seiji 16y ago
Your novelty account is creepy.
- jchrisa 16y ago
  It all started here: http://twitter.com/couchdb http://twitter.com/couchdb I imagine by the time we get the 23andMe account it'll be really creepy. ;)
blueberry 16y ago
I hope someone creates mongodb account and responds to your comment. Nothing better to follow than hot, fierce war between databases. Keep'em coming! May the best prevail!
aschobel 16y ago
Offline on Android support sounds really amazing. I'm poking around DroidCouch and only see a wrapper for the CouchDB REST API: http://github.com/sig/DroidCouch http://github.com/sig/DroidCouch Should I be looking at another project for offline support?
- couchdb 16y ago
  You can get my Android installer here: http://www.couch.io/android http://www.couch.io/android Remember it's only a developer preview, but it should be fully-functional. Requires Android 2.1 or 2.2
- deleted 16y ago
  [deleted]

bitdiddle 16y ago

couch hits a number of sweet spots. Documents can have attachments so you can build a complete application out of html,css, and javascript and have the entire app reside in a couch database. Coupled with P2P replication this make for some interesting possibilities. couch also inherits a lot from it's choice of implementation language, Erlang, and it's append-only storage design. A high level functional language such as Erlang makes for a small manageable code base. So if you want to extend or enhance it there's not as much to get your arms around as you would have in C++. On the other if you're a web programmer or could just otherwise care less about db internals, the JSON based RESTful API is all you need and there's a client already out there for just about every language I can think of except maybe Rebol. I've been poking at it for a couple of years now and one thing I have to say is that it is really truly rock solid. Moreover it has an active and supportive community and at least two companies building businesses around it, Cloudant and couch.io, both of which boast committers to the project.

oconnor0 16y ago
Are there any examples of applications being wholly hosted inside Couch?
- amock 16y ago
  See http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1515315 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1515315
- jchrisa 16y ago
  see http://couchapp.org http://couchapp.org
- bitdiddle 16y ago
  there's also one of my favorites, Swinger, http://c.ixxr.net/swinger/_design/swinger/index.html#/ http://c.ixxr.net/swinger/_design/swinger/index.html#/ which is like powerpoint except it's free and it works. It's great for pitching to folks
- necubi 16y ago
  The admin program (at http://localhost:5984/_utils http://localhost:5984/_utils if couch is installed and running) is such a program.

gmjosack 16y ago

I think we have different definitions of "production-ready." I find Cassandra to considerably immature having weird bugs that cause it to outright crash and both Cassandra and Mongo have seen issues from many people with data loss. Yes, people are using these systems in production but they're both still young and immature and it is in everyone's best interest to continue to evaluate possible solutions that are coming out.

couchdb 16y ago
I've been in production without issue for years in some installations. I probably could have raised the "production-ready" flag in 2008/2009 if I held myself to the same standards as a lot of projects.
- jamii 16y ago
  In both my last job (latexsearch.com) and my current job (smarkets.com) I've worked with couchdb in fairly large scale installations. I haven't experienced a single bug nor had any couchdb-related performance problems. It's pretty solid.
masomenos 16y ago
". . .Mongo have seen issues from many people with data loss" Have any citations for data loss happening in a release version of mongo, with the recommended configuration (at least 1 slave)?