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You are probably right that Angular 1.x devs will ramp up a bit faster in Vue than React. Angular and Vue both add template syntax to HTML, which will be more f

by erokar 9y ago

You are probably right that Angular 1.x devs will ramp up a bit faster in Vue than React. Angular and Vue both add template syntax to HTML, which will be more familiar to Angular devs. However, I do not think initial ramp up time should matter that much, at least not for long running projects. More important questions are: How will the project scale? How easy will it be to maintain? > React is overengineering for most web apps. This is a peculiar statement, imo. Have you compared the surface APIs of React and Vue? React's API is much smaller. While Vue might be easier, React comes off as simpler.

mercer 9y ago
> This is a peculiar statement, imo. Have you compared the surface APIs of React and Vue? React's API is much smaller. While Vue might be easier, React comes off as simpler. This 'simplicity leading to complexity' issue reminds me of the many articles that argue why Lisps aren't more popular precisely because they're so powerful/simple. I'm not experienced enough to know if the argument has merit, but I have noticed that my React projects often end up rather complex because I need so many extra packages to even get a basic app going (beyond the simple Todo demo apps anyways). The moment I add an extra package, it's yet another choice to make, and yet another thing that makes my project less accessible to others. Where I might use Redux, others might only have experience with Baobab, Fluxt, Nuxxor, FlimFlam, or whatnot. This situation does seem to be improving: Redux seems relatively 'safe' and standard enough, for example, and then there's stuff like create-react-app. However using Vue.js is still 'simpler' by having a more standardized ecosystem. While personally I've always preferred simplicity and love React conceptually, I've definitely become more aware of the drawbacks of having a less standardizes ecosystem to work with. And I can definitely confirm that getting people new to front-end development started is much easier with Vue.js. I even have a suspicion that the logic-in-template stuff, my reasons for avoiding Vue and Angular in the past, is much easier to 'get' by those who are new to front-end development. I'm not entirely sure why, but it's what I've experienced with all my 'students'.

by erokar 9y ago

mercer 9y ago

> This is a peculiar statement, imo. Have you compared the surface APIs of React and Vue? React's API is much smaller. While Vue might be easier, React comes off as simpler. This 'simplicity leading to complexity' issue reminds me of the many articles that argue why Lisps aren't more popular precisely because they're so powerful/simple. I'm not experienced enough to know if the argument has merit, but I have noticed that my React projects often end up rather complex because I need so many extra packages to even get a basic app going (beyond the simple Todo demo apps anyways). The moment I add an extra package, it's yet another choice to make, and yet another thing that makes my project less accessible to others. Where I might use Redux, others might only have experience with Baobab, Fluxt, Nuxxor, FlimFlam, or whatnot. This situation does seem to be improving: Redux seems relatively 'safe' and standard enough, for example, and then there's stuff like create-react-app. However using Vue.js is still 'simpler' by having a more standardized ecosystem. While personally I've always preferred simplicity and love React conceptually, I've definitely become more aware of the drawbacks of having a less standardizes ecosystem to work with. And I can definitely confirm that getting people new to front-end development started is much easier with Vue.js. I even have a suspicion that the logic-in-template stuff, my reasons for avoiding Vue and Angular in the past, is much easier to 'get' by those who are new to front-end development. I'm not entirely sure why, but it's what I've experienced with all my 'students'.