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I've been attempting to learn Angular2 and React, but haven't delved into Vue. Angular2 is just different, but it makes more sense to me than 1 if you take the

by Pigo 9y ago

I've been attempting to learn Angular2 and React, but haven't delved into Vue. Angular2 is just different, but it makes more sense to me than 1 if you take the time to learn the concepts. If you go into 2 thinking your 1 skills will translate, then I get why you'd be frustrated. But I found 1 to be very vague conceptually, so many different ways to do the same thing that you end up with many bad implementations. And compared to React, Angular2 is cake imo. There's so much more materials to draw from, and ui libraries to use, and you have to import so much in order to do the same things in React. That may allow for more flexibility, but it makes the learning curve that much more difficult. I'm still not a fan of Typescript, but it seems important to get familiar with ES6. Also angular-cli and create-react-app are both excellent tools that take a lot of the guess work out of the process, at the very least they show you how to do things right way and keep up to date with what's important.

camus2 9y ago
> Angular2 is cake imo. Angular.X totally lacks of vision. For years it didn't know what it wanted to be, pilling up layers of layers of complexity with IoC containers (useless in a weakly and dynamically typed language such as javascript), Some custom HTML that even needs its own parser, Rx.JS (which is self sufficient if you use it, you literally do not need something on top of that). For what result? it's not faster, snappier in the client, lighter when it comes to the payload, not easier to learn or to test or to use. You don't need some ajax libs either, the fetch API already exists. Angular.X is trying to be the "JEE" of the front-end, except it miss the point of JEE which are a bunch of stable specs, which Angular isn't.
- pas 9y ago
  The vision is finally having a good UI kit. Components, templates, lazy loading, isomorphic/universal JS, precompilation, maintainability, code discoverability, ease of team development, testing, etc. Angular CLI does the compilation, provides the boilerplate management (no need for IDE, if you don't want that), provides the language service (for static checking templates). Google dogfoods it, they are on the latest rc always. Somehow they can manage the API changes/breaks. (And so far it wasn't much problem for us either.) I don't know if rx is now a hard or optional dependency, but at least they haven't NIH-ed another Observable lib.

by Pigo 9y ago

camus2 9y ago

> Angular2 is cake imo. Angular.X totally lacks of vision. For years it didn't know what it wanted to be, pilling up layers of layers of complexity with IoC containers (useless in a weakly and dynamically typed language such as javascript), Some custom HTML that even needs its own parser, Rx.JS (which is self sufficient if you use it, you literally do not need something on top of that). For what result? it's not faster, snappier in the client, lighter when it comes to the payload, not easier to learn or to test or to use. You don't need some ajax libs either, the fetch API already exists. Angular.X is trying to be the "JEE" of the front-end, except it miss the point of JEE which are a bunch of stable specs, which Angular isn't.

pas 9y ago
The vision is finally having a good UI kit. Components, templates, lazy loading, isomorphic/universal JS, precompilation, maintainability, code discoverability, ease of team development, testing, etc. Angular CLI does the compilation, provides the boilerplate management (no need for IDE, if you don't want that), provides the language service (for static checking templates). Google dogfoods it, they are on the latest rc always. Somehow they can manage the API changes/breaks. (And so far it wasn't much problem for us either.) I don't know if rx is now a hard or optional dependency, but at least they haven't NIH-ed another Observable lib.