5 ms·

The issue is that they try to use convince people that monopolies are bad except when they are doing it. It's generally considered bad taste and hypocritical t

The issue is that they try to use convince people that monopolies are bad except when they are doing it. It's generally considered bad taste and hypocritical to preach something and not abide to what you preach yourself. In my country a lot of media people are for example writing about embracing immigration and slander anyone who disagrees but studies have shown that the people who work in these media outlets does not live in areas affected negatively by increased immigration to a large extent. There is a reason why people hate that kind of shit and that's because it stinks and is used by people in power to shit on people without power.

msl09 9y ago
>The issue is that they try to use convince people that monopolies are bad except when they are doing it. Can you provide some examples?
- frgtpsswrdlame 9y ago
  Eric Schmidt never objected when the Open Markets program posted about Amazon's monopoly: https://www.newamerica.org/open-markets/ https://www.newamerica.org/open-markets/
  - ehsankia 9y ago
    Sure, but realistically, why would he? What would be bad is if he had specifically asked or funded them to make that post. But you can't blindly assume malintent and hypothesize that Google has been funding New America so they can bash on other monopolies. There is no proof of that, that's just you assuming the worst.
    - frgtpsswrdlame 9y ago
      ... I never assumed that. I was just providing an example of what the parent asked for. Your conclusions are your own.
kybernetikos 9y ago
> studies have shown that the people who work in these media outlets does not live in areas affected negatively by increased immigration to a large extent. Lots of people who dislike immigration also do not live in areas affected negatively by it. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't consider their views, although it may influence how much weight we want to put towards them when making policy.
- staticelf 9y ago
  Sure but these people have often times no real power or cannot share their experiences with a massive amount of people like many media outlets easily can do. Unless, they of course, create their own media organisations which is happening in every western country and is the core reason for all this "fake news" which is a term ironically often most used by old mass-media that themselves heavily rely on half-truths at best.

msl09 9y ago

>The issue is that they try to use convince people that monopolies are bad except when they are doing it. Can you provide some examples?

frgtpsswrdlame 9y ago
Eric Schmidt never objected when the Open Markets program posted about Amazon's monopoly: https://www.newamerica.org/open-markets/ https://www.newamerica.org/open-markets/
- ehsankia 9y ago
  Sure, but realistically, why would he? What would be bad is if he had specifically asked or funded them to make that post. But you can't blindly assume malintent and hypothesize that Google has been funding New America so they can bash on other monopolies. There is no proof of that, that's just you assuming the worst.
  - frgtpsswrdlame 9y ago
    ... I never assumed that. I was just providing an example of what the parent asked for. Your conclusions are your own.

kybernetikos 9y ago

> studies have shown that the people who work in these media outlets does not live in areas affected negatively by increased immigration to a large extent. Lots of people who dislike immigration also do not live in areas affected negatively by it. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't consider their views, although it may influence how much weight we want to put towards them when making policy.

staticelf 9y ago
Sure but these people have often times no real power or cannot share their experiences with a massive amount of people like many media outlets easily can do. Unless, they of course, create their own media organisations which is happening in every western country and is the core reason for all this "fake news" which is a term ironically often most used by old mass-media that themselves heavily rely on half-truths at best.