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It doesn't seem to you like the right is increasingly reliant on shadowy conspiracies to explain events? I haven't heard the phrase "false flag operation" come

It doesn't seem to you like the right is increasingly reliant on shadowy conspiracies to explain events? I haven't heard the phrase "false flag operation" come up except from my infowars friends. A Republican chairman from my state said the violence in Charlottesville was caused by "evil Soros money," which seems to imply a conspiracy to me. Doesn't the whole "fake news" thing strike you as an attempt on the part of the right to brand the entire media a conspiracy, if not journalism itself?

dmix 9y ago
Soros is merely the rights version of how the Koch brothers are behind everything to the left. Sorry I'm struggling to take this as anything new or special with the right in the Fox news/CNN world of US politics. But as I said we're in a new era of extreme political tribalism. What disappointments me is that so many smart people on the left think they are engaging in 'resistance' when they are largely just fueling further tribalism by going deeper down their sides rabbit hole - instead of engaging in rational discourse, focusing on party output instead of tribal wins, and rejecting FUD. I hold the right to a lower standard as I believe most of them are doing it for emotional gratification of trolling the left rather than pursuing some righteous politicial objective, but that still largely creates the same results.
- fusiongyro 9y ago
  That's a fair point about the Koch brothers. I can't disagree with what you're saying here.
  - mrguyorama 9y ago
    I can. I've never seen people claim that the Koch brothers pay actors to run over counter-protestors
- freeflight 9y ago
  > What disappointments me is that so many smart people on the left think they are engaging in 'resistance' when they are largely just fueling further tribalism by going deeper down their sides rabbit hole - instead of engaging in rational discourse, focusing on party output instead of tribal wins, and rejecting FUD. Couldn't agree more, I still can't believe "we" actually had to discuss if it's okay to sucker-punch people out of the blue just because of their political beliefs. That was some serious hypocrite BS.
jessaustin 9y ago
I would have sworn I had heard something about a "stolen election"? Supposedly this was done by publishing someone's emails? Apparently there were lots of "bots" on social media? Also there may have been a power company in Vermont that got hacked? Did the rightists come up with all that bullshit? Actually, I don't think "the right" came up with the term "fake news" either...

dmix 9y ago

Soros is merely the rights version of how the Koch brothers are behind everything to the left. Sorry I'm struggling to take this as anything new or special with the right in the Fox news/CNN world of US politics. But as I said we're in a new era of extreme political tribalism. What disappointments me is that so many smart people on the left think they are engaging in 'resistance' when they are largely just fueling further tribalism by going deeper down their sides rabbit hole - instead of engaging in rational discourse, focusing on party output instead of tribal wins, and rejecting FUD. I hold the right to a lower standard as I believe most of them are doing it for emotional gratification of trolling the left rather than pursuing some righteous politicial objective, but that still largely creates the same results.

fusiongyro 9y ago
That's a fair point about the Koch brothers. I can't disagree with what you're saying here.
- mrguyorama 9y ago
  I can. I've never seen people claim that the Koch brothers pay actors to run over counter-protestors
freeflight 9y ago
> What disappointments me is that so many smart people on the left think they are engaging in 'resistance' when they are largely just fueling further tribalism by going deeper down their sides rabbit hole - instead of engaging in rational discourse, focusing on party output instead of tribal wins, and rejecting FUD. Couldn't agree more, I still can't believe "we" actually had to discuss if it's okay to sucker-punch people out of the blue just because of their political beliefs. That was some serious hypocrite BS.

jessaustin 9y ago

I would have sworn I had heard something about a "stolen election"? Supposedly this was done by publishing someone's emails? Apparently there were lots of "bots" on social media? Also there may have been a power company in Vermont that got hacked? Did the rightists come up with all that bullshit? Actually, I don't think "the right" came up with the term "fake news" either...