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That's exactly what the adtech industry is starting to do. They've even got WordPress and Cloudflare plugins that can dynamically reinsert blocked ads via their

That's exactly what the adtech industry is starting to do. They've even got WordPress and Cloudflare plugins that can dynamically reinsert blocked ads via their proxy.

duncan_bayne 9y ago
Just wait for Bayesian filters that block specific areas of the downloaded content.
- firebones 9y ago
  Core War, only for adtech. Let the games begin.
- flukus 9y ago
  Canvas + WebAssembly to the advertisers rescue. You didn't really think this technology was created to make life better for users did you?
gradys 9y ago
Maybe not with the techniques they're using now, but if humans can tell it's an ad, then an ad blocker with say an image recognition model can too.
- SerLava 9y ago
  Easy- just make ads that humans can't tell are ads. Also helps if you make ads that the FCC can't tell are ads! As they've been doing.... sigh.
  - PeachPlum 9y ago
    First page impression : I'm just going to sip from my delicious cup of Niscafe coffee, the best around, while I write this review of the Nvodua graphics card. Next page impression I'm just going to dab my brow with the silky smooth Kloonix napkin, the best around, while I write this review of the Nvodua graphics card. etc.
- loeg 9y ago
  Native content can be really difficult for humans to distinguish.
  - Spivak 9y ago
    Surely there will be an eventual crackdown of sponsored content that isn't marked as such.
    - iainmerrick 9y ago
      Crackdown by whom? Advertisers and publishers are generally in favor of it, consumers don't care, watchdogs are toothless.
      - brainfire 9y ago
        In the US, the FTC. Or do you consider them toothless? It does seem like they're at least making the appearance of trying: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/03/lord-taylor-settles-ftc-charges-it-deceived-consumers-through https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/03/lord-...
    - PeachPlum 9y ago
      Product placement is legal in TV, why not papers published on arxiv?
teolandon 9y ago
As long as I am able to block any element I want using my browser (and god help us if we reach a state where we can't), I won't have to look at any ad for more than 2 seconds. Any website that has too many ads to disable manually, or is in some way embedded with critical parts of the website is simply not worth my time.
- clarry 9y ago
  > As long as I am able to block any element I want using my browser (and god help us if we reach a state where we can't) Render content & ads on a single canvas?
  - dkersten 9y ago
    I believe that falls under > Any website that has too many ads to disable manually, or is in some way embedded with critical parts of the website is simply not worth my time.
_pmf_ 9y ago
> They've even got WordPress and Cloudflare plugins that can dynamically reinsert blocked ads via their proxy. Using https with CDNs is basically a very funny large scale practical joke.

That's exactly what the adtech industry is starting to do. They've even got WordPress and Cloudflare plugins that can dynamically reinsert blocked ads via their proxy.

duncan_bayne 9y ago

Just wait for Bayesian filters that block specific areas of the downloaded content.

firebones 9y ago
Core War, only for adtech. Let the games begin.
flukus 9y ago
Canvas + WebAssembly to the advertisers rescue. You didn't really think this technology was created to make life better for users did you?

gradys 9y ago

Maybe not with the techniques they're using now, but if humans can tell it's an ad, then an ad blocker with say an image recognition model can too.

SerLava 9y ago
Easy- just make ads that humans can't tell are ads. Also helps if you make ads that the FCC can't tell are ads! As they've been doing.... sigh.
- PeachPlum 9y ago
  First page impression : I'm just going to sip from my delicious cup of Niscafe coffee, the best around, while I write this review of the Nvodua graphics card. Next page impression I'm just going to dab my brow with the silky smooth Kloonix napkin, the best around, while I write this review of the Nvodua graphics card. etc.
loeg 9y ago
Native content can be really difficult for humans to distinguish.
- Spivak 9y ago
  Surely there will be an eventual crackdown of sponsored content that isn't marked as such.
  - iainmerrick 9y ago
    Crackdown by whom? Advertisers and publishers are generally in favor of it, consumers don't care, watchdogs are toothless.
    - brainfire 9y ago
      In the US, the FTC. Or do you consider them toothless? It does seem like they're at least making the appearance of trying: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/03/lord-taylor-settles-ftc-charges-it-deceived-consumers-through https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/03/lord-...
  - PeachPlum 9y ago
    Product placement is legal in TV, why not papers published on arxiv?

teolandon 9y ago

As long as I am able to block any element I want using my browser (and god help us if we reach a state where we can't), I won't have to look at any ad for more than 2 seconds. Any website that has too many ads to disable manually, or is in some way embedded with critical parts of the website is simply not worth my time.

clarry 9y ago
> As long as I am able to block any element I want using my browser (and god help us if we reach a state where we can't) Render content & ads on a single canvas?
- dkersten 9y ago
  I believe that falls under > Any website that has too many ads to disable manually, or is in some way embedded with critical parts of the website is simply not worth my time.

_pmf_ 9y ago

> They've even got WordPress and Cloudflare plugins that can dynamically reinsert blocked ads via their proxy. Using https with CDNs is basically a very funny large scale practical joke.