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> Average life of ICE vehicles can't be 266kkm, that's absurdly low. People buy a lot of Chryslers, Fiats, Fords, and Chevys. You'd be lucky (or cursed, depend

> Average life of ICE vehicles can't be 266kkm, that's absurdly low. People buy a lot of Chryslers, Fiats, Fords, and Chevys. You'd be lucky (or cursed, depending on how much you hate the car) to make it to 266kkm with a Chrysler Sebring, for instance.

Qub3d 9y ago
Sebrings, as I recall, require either completely removing the front left tire, or pulling the wheels to the left as far as they go in order to remove the battery, which is housed under the wheel well. Not everyone builds Corollas.
TomMarius 9y ago
That's interesting because I know a lot of people with European Fords (Mondeo, Focus), myself and my family included, that went well over 350k km. Are the American Fords so incredibly bad?
- jandrese 9y ago
  I think it's more that people who never maintain their vehicles don't expect them to last past 100k miles. If you follow the manufacturers suggested maintenance regime in the manual it will last much longer. Unfortunately, this means the used car market is also full of moderate mileage vehicles that require a ton of preventative maintenance as soon as you buy them, giving the used cars a bad name. If you buy a used Chrysler with 100k miles, its probably 40k miles overdue for a timing belt replacement, transmission filter change, radiator flush, alignment, brakes, tires, etc... On the plus side, you probably got it pretty cheap. For one point of reference, Ford was notorious for "value engineering" the old US Rangers so they would die around 150k miles, but I kept mine running for 250k miles and 23 years with mostly just regular maintenance and the occasional repair. The thing that finally killed it was an aftermarket slave cylinder for the clutch that failed and blasted brake fluid all over the inside of the transmission.
  - TomMarius 9y ago
    Not expecting a ~$30k vehicle to run after 100k miles seems absolutely crazy to me. It's a nice showing of how different (wealthier and not caring in this case) the USA are from Europe.

Qub3d 9y ago

Sebrings, as I recall, require either completely removing the front left tire, or pulling the wheels to the left as far as they go in order to remove the battery, which is housed under the wheel well. Not everyone builds Corollas.

TomMarius 9y ago

That's interesting because I know a lot of people with European Fords (Mondeo, Focus), myself and my family included, that went well over 350k km. Are the American Fords so incredibly bad?

jandrese 9y ago
I think it's more that people who never maintain their vehicles don't expect them to last past 100k miles. If you follow the manufacturers suggested maintenance regime in the manual it will last much longer. Unfortunately, this means the used car market is also full of moderate mileage vehicles that require a ton of preventative maintenance as soon as you buy them, giving the used cars a bad name. If you buy a used Chrysler with 100k miles, its probably 40k miles overdue for a timing belt replacement, transmission filter change, radiator flush, alignment, brakes, tires, etc... On the plus side, you probably got it pretty cheap. For one point of reference, Ford was notorious for "value engineering" the old US Rangers so they would die around 150k miles, but I kept mine running for 250k miles and 23 years with mostly just regular maintenance and the occasional repair. The thing that finally killed it was an aftermarket slave cylinder for the clutch that failed and blasted brake fluid all over the inside of the transmission.
- TomMarius 9y ago
  Not expecting a ~$30k vehicle to run after 100k miles seems absolutely crazy to me. It's a nice showing of how different (wealthier and not caring in this case) the USA are from Europe.