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Wasn't gizmodo the same site that published the modified Google Manifesto? I'm glad that gizmodo is covering free speech (I believe they're left leaning in gen
by brad0 9y ago
Wasn't gizmodo the same site that published the modified Google Manifesto?
I'm glad that gizmodo is covering free speech (I believe they're left leaning in general). Just make sure to verify all the claims made in any politically biased publication.
- at-fates-hands 9y agoYeap - they removed all the citations and several graphs that supported what he was saying. If you didn't know that, you would read it thinking this was completely his own opinion.
- fenomas 9y agoI seem to recall the story being that they published a version of the memo that they received without citations or graphs. Do you have a source that they had the full memo and edited it?
- Cursuviam 9y agoFrom the Gizmodo article > The text of the post is reproduced in full below, with some minor formatting modifications. Two charts and several hyperlinks are also omitted.
- fenomas 9y agoSure, and that can be read to mean either that they knew graphs and links were missing (e.g. because they received the memo as plaintext) or that they purposely removed them out of political or whatever motives. Isn't the former the more parsimonious assumption? Now that I check back, I notice that the gizmodo version also changed all of Damore's bullet-point list items to be singly-indented, where in the original many of them were doubly-indented. It's hard to imagine any motive for doing that intentionally, but it's what one would expect if Gizmodo got the text without its original formatting.
- throwaway613834 9y ago> Sure, and that can be read to mean either that they knew graphs and links were missing (e.g. because they received the memo as plaintext) or that they purposely removed them out of political or whatever motives. Isn't the former the more parsimonious assumption? Dude... no. The "most parsimonious assumption" when someone says they are reproducing something "with modifications" is that they are perfectly well aware what modifications were made, and they most likely made it themselves. Like when someone tells you "don't open that box", a sane person doesn't conclude "ah, chances are good he has no idea what's in the box".
- amiga-workbench 9y agoWhat a complete hatchet job.
- yahna 9y agoExcept even if you accept his claims it was still a terrible memo and he deserved to get fired.
- brad0 9y agoCould you expand on this? What was terrible about the memo and on what grounds does he deserve to be fired?
- amiga-workbench 9y agoIf that is indeed the case, sabotaging or censoring what somebody has to say only makes you look like your viewpoint is a weak and otherwise indefensible one.
- guelo 9y agoFree speech is not only a right wing issue. There are many issues were the left takes a stronger free speech position. Some examples from the top of my head: flag burning, islamic terrorist speech, against porn and obscenity laws.
- mc32 9y agoPorn is very fraught and it's not a clean right left thing. There are quite a few on the left who see porn as exploitation and objectification. On the right you have moralists against it because they say/think it influences and or "destabilizes" family or whatever.
- aidenn0 9y agoI still think the most obvious cause wasn't political bias, but laziness. What they published was what you would get with "Select All" "Copy" "Paste"