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I've had a model s for 3 years now and spent a total of 2 hours at a service center for 1 maintenance appointment. Compare that to previous bmw or range rover

• jdavis703 9y ago
  I'm shocked by that. I had a Honda Fit for five years with about 50,000 miles, besides smog tests and getting new tires I never had to take it to a shop. I would expect more up-market brands to have even better reliability. Is this common that cheaper cars have better maintenance, or was I lucky?
  • teej 9y ago
    Japanese cars are famously reliable. German cars are not. A Toyota Corolla is miles ahead of a Mercedes S Class.
    • DrScump 9y ago
      How many Japanese vehicles were compromised (and had resulting loss of use) by the Takata airbag debacle?
    • TomMarius 9y ago
      This is shocking to me. Do you have any insight? Mercedeses newer than 2010 are considered incredibly reliable here in Europe. They had a rough decade before that, but since the introduction of W212 E-Klasse, they're back on track. Is that different for USA models?
      • opencl 9y ago
        How can you call any car newer than 2010 "incredibly reliable"? There's not nearly enough data on it. I would certainly expect a car less than 10 years old to be reliable, incredibly reliable to me implies at least 20 years of reliable operation. I own 2 Japanese cars that are both over 20 years old and have over 250K miles/400K km each, one of which is a Corolla, and they still run fine.
        • TomMarius 9y ago
          I'm of course talking about high-mileage applications. These newer Mercedeses (specifically W212 E-Klasse) are popular among taxi drivers and often have more than 800000 km on them - and still going strong. I'm going to buy this car for this exact reason - because taxi drivers are so happy with it.
  • bane 9y ago
    Yes. Upmarket brands are known to be plagued with various electrical and "feature" problems that don't bother other cars - the lone exception appears to be Lexus, which tends to rate about as high as Toyotas. But Acuras tend to be less reliable than Hondas Infinities tend to be less reliable than Nissans and so on. Basically, fewer moving parts means better reliability in general. In addition, lower level cars are much cheaper to repair for various reasons. Want a car that will run forever on the cheap? You're probably driving it.
  • aggie 9y ago
    If you have the money to buy a luxury car, you probably aren't scrutinizing cost of ownership as much as someone buying an economy model. Plus the dealers want the extended business and high end cars are more likely to be serviced at a dealership. Thus, high end manufacturers do not focus on reliability. Another contributing factor is cutting edge features. The motorized lift gate won't go bad in your economy car because it doesn't have one.
  • ehnto 9y ago
    I have had a 1996 R33 Skyline for 7 years, more than 100,000km and haven't had a single issue asside from a worn suspension boot. Given its age, that should be remarkable, but it is my second R33 and the first was just as uneventful maintenance wise. I am not particularly kind to them either. The first one was rear ended by a Suzuki Vitara, which wrote off the car, in case anyone was curious why I have had two.
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  • wallace_f 9y ago
    While other answers have touched on some of the reasons for this, another one I always assumed is that the econ-o-box car will sell in far greater volume than the luxury car, meaning costs of R&D can be spread over more cars. I would guess a Honda Civic actually has way more $ in R&D spent on developing it than a new Ferrari, or even a relatively common luxury like a Porsche. Someone correct me if that's wrong.
• bane 9y ago
  > Compare that to previous bmw or range rover Congratulations you've managed to buy two of the most unreliable brands before buying your Tesla. Both are generally known as tremendously unreliable cars (with the exception of BMW 3-series). The Range Rover in particular being known as one of those "buy two of them, one for the shop one for the garage" brands. BMW owners hide behind pre-purchased repairs being covered for 5 years via soon to be well worn warranty repairs. If you care at all about reliability here's the rules: - Do you want mechanical problems? Buy American, French or British/Indian brands - Do you want Electrical problems? Buy German or Northern European brands - Do you want none of the above? Buy consumer Japanese brands and avoid the Luxury brands except for Lexus. Korean cars are a close second. - Do you want all of the above? buy a Jeep or an Italian car. If only there was some place potential buyers could search for car reliability information.
  • tigershark 9y ago
    So I guess that a Ferrari is totally unreliable looking at your post..
  • tsomctl 9y ago
    I largely agree with you, although you are condescending. American cars are pretty reliable these days (albeit not as reliable as Toyota at their best). Having wrenched on both, Ford and Chevy are excellent at making good cars as cheap as possible (or cheap cars as good as possible). Their engineering is just good enough for the vehicle to work, with no effort to go above and beyond. And to tigershark, Ferrari and Lamborghini are both notoriously unreliable. It's just the price you pay to have good performance. If you make things more reliable, it tends to mean more metal and bigger bearings, which makes it heavier and reduces handling. Refences: http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer http://www.dashboard-light.com/reports/Mid-size.html http://www.dashboard-light.com/reports/Mid-size.html
    • biktor_gj 9y ago
      For the record, my Toyota, being one year old, has been 3 times already for repairs, due to the Diesel Particle Filter. 25K Euro spent on the car, and 300€ in maintenance and repairs on the first year, with 21000 Km driven.