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I have seen plenty of cars not make to 165_000 miles, those that do are often near the end of their life. Mine is beat and barely holding together and it is at
by sqeaky 9y ago
I have seen plenty of cars not make to 165_000 miles, those that do are often near the end of their life. Mine is beat and barely holding together and it is at 97_000 miles.
- vvanders 9y agoYup, when I donated my car at 145k mi I expected to to be resold but got notified that it was turned into parts for $350(they had to report back to me for tax reasons).
- dom0 9y ago97 000 miles, just barely 160k kilometers. That's... really not much at all.
- seszett 9y ago165 000 miles is 266 000 km, for the readers who might wonder. My car is at 350 000 km now, and I'm not planning on selling it anytime soon. It doesn't have any special problem, except for a malfunctioning electric window lifter on one side. It's only one data point of course.
- sqeaky 9y agoWhat percentage of car owners do this? There is some percentage of cars crashed in the first week. It only takes a few of these to cancel out the average of extreme outliers like your car. For reference I have never seen an odometer with more than 200 000 on it before. Even most classic rebuilds I have seen like 69 Corvettes have some high 100K count on them, some event have reset odometers.
- nathancahill 9y agoHuh, I drive a Toyota with 205,000 miles on it. Still in great condition after tons of cross-country road trips.
- Animats 9y agoI'm up to 235,000 miles on a 1985 Ford Bronco as the original owner, but that's a 2-ton truck. High-mileage trucks aren't that unusual.
- apapli 9y agoWe had a (1988?) family Peugeot 505 station wagon that made over 600,000kms back in the day. Perhaps they don't build them like they used to, but our 1980's Honda sedan also easily clicked over 350,000kms too.
- seszett 9y agoI don't know, but if the average is 220 000 km (according to the article) I'd say a fair share of cars must go beyond that. If I had not bought my car (it was at 300 000 km) I'm pretty sure it would have been sold in Eastern Europe instead, or maybe Africa since it's a Peugeot (a 406). In the countryside, it's also very common to have both a nice recent car, and an old reliable one like mine for the dirty work. Most people I know do have one car that is a few 100 000s of km. Also, we mostly use diesel here, and these are supposed to be much more reliable than the gasoline engines used in the US (and I'm not going into the purported lack of reliability of American cars to begin with). I'm talking about everyday cars that are 15 or 20 years old, not classic cars.
- dom0 9y agoGasoline engines can be plenty reliable. I think the main reason why a lot of cars from the 80s and 90s are able to go to 400k and more is (1) cheaper and easier maintenance, so more inclined to do it regularly (2) no fancy shit going on, no turbo chargers, no high-pressure fuel injection, thus far less wear on parts, no unreliable high-pressure pumps etc. Replacement parts on these are also far more expensive. New turbo is a four-figure number just for the part. Injection pumps are bloody expensive, too. Less optimized designs may also be a factor. CAD and FEM modelling has only become better with time, so back in the day engineers would rather make a more conservative design, nowadays that's not so necessary any more.
- tyingq 9y agoAluminum heads are part of why some newer cars don't last as long. It's easier to blow a head gasket. Replacing those in a tightly packed front wheel drive engine bay often exceeds the value of the car. Or, driving with the blown gasket causes overheating that damages other components.
- xanderstrike 9y agoPoke your head in any work van or truck and you'll see 200k and up.
- photojosh 9y agoOr any taxi. My trip back from the airport last week had 440k on a Prius.
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- 72deluxe 9y agoMy 1972 VW Beetle has done 6000 miles apparently. Turns out it has gone round the clock...
- ashark 9y ago> except for a malfunctioning electric window lifter on one side. There's probably a Youtube video that'll walk you through how to replace it. I replaced the one on the driver's side door of our 2001 Honda Odyssey last year. I think it was like $120-150 (USD) for the part and 3ish hours. I know almost nothing about fixing cars (just generally how to use basic tools), but have used info from forums and (especially) youtube to fix several things like that on our cars. [EDIT] great thing about the Youtube videos is you can get a good idea of whether it's something you can manage yourself before you tear your car apart.
- visakanv 9y agoPeople making YouTube videos to teach strangers how to do things is one of my favorite things about the human species :')
- TomMarius 9y agoUhh... My own car has around 98k miles (165kkm) and I consider it pretty new.
- dyeje 9y agoI had a 98 Jeep Sport Cherokee at 170k miles. One time I ran into a guy with the same car at a Walgreens (same model, same color, same year), we said hi and laughed about it. His had recently hit 300k and was still going strong. Cars can last quite a long time with regular maintenance.
- jcranberry 9y agoI had a friend in high school whose family's Jeep just hit a million miles and was still chugging. Well, that's what Jeeps are for.
- notlob 9y agoMy 80s diesel Benz is barely broken in at 249k miles. It all depends on the car. Ironically, more modern cars will probably not last as long! I can rebuild just about anything on this car, electronics included (most complicated part is perhaps a common opamp). On modern cars, as soon as the advanced ICs (say an ECU) are NLA you’re SOL.
- true_religion 9y agoNah, older cars which weren't made well, or maintained well are all sitting in a landfill right now. It's only the few that were both made better, with no production flaws, and great maintenance that have lasted long enough for us to see then with 150k miles before being purchased today.
- mcguire 9y agoThat was very true of cars in the US before 1990, say. Today's are much better. I have a 2004 Corvette with about 140,000 miles. Stuff breaks, but it is a vette. My last F150 had about 160,000 miles when I, uh, wrecked it. Still looked and drove like new.
- sliken 9y agoBuy a subaru next time.
- ridgeguy 9y agoMy automotive longevity anecdata: '99 Toyota 4Runner, 232K miles (currently own); '85 Honda Civic, 197K miles; '59 VW bus, ~490K miles (with a rebuild of the 40hp engine at ~240K miles and a transaxle from a junker at ~300K miles).
- fnj 9y ago> Mine is beat and barely holding together and it is at 97_000 miles. You are ridiculously hard on your capital equipment. It must be nice not to have a care in the world for your expensive possessions. Personally I couldn't bring myself to torture fine machinery like that.
- demosthenes111 9y agoLots of assumptions in this comment.