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>Without net neutrality, you might not have an audience in the first place. DNS can be, and was, taken away without any due legal process. That was my wake up

>Without net neutrality, you might not have an audience in the first place. DNS can be, and was, taken away without any due legal process. That was my wake up call. Google cloud is registering domains and has that control over it. When it comes to dire situations, if my ISP does funny business, I can choose another ISP e.g. a mobile connection. No different than taking another road to go to the bank. My account and money in there is still safe. If the bank take away my account without due legal process, does it matter if the roads to get to the bank were traffic/pothole/toll free? For a YouTube content creator, who spent years building brand and audience, one fine day to wake up and have videos demonetized and/or account suspended is like bank terminating your account without giving you a dime from your account. With bank, you can get government/FDIC engaged, with YouTube, they are the Gods of that universe. >And as for your analogy, no. It's like renting a paper notebook, Paying account holders of g-suite apps from google, faced account termination with no cause, no access to videos/files/emails. This is digital violence and much bigger threat that has materialized, and is far greater than NN. If terms of service are enough to allow Google doing what it does, why can't Comcast do the same with their terms of service? I didn't know it was that easy to do. Don't tell Comcast, please. They would be delighted to hear that terms of service is all it took to convince you to override NN. You are renting their cable and ability to send traffic over their infrastructure, aren't you? How is cable infrastructure renting different than DNS/Video-site/email renting?

prophesi 9y ago
Finally, some good points. > When it comes to dire situations, if my ISP does funny business, I can choose another ISP e.g. a mobile connection. No, a mobile connection is hardly a replacement for a traditional internet connection. You can't host a site or connect to it with most devices, for example. And no, most people can't choose another ISP. Comcast will have run out all other competitors, or receive funding from the government to build their infrastructure and outlaw any other ISP's from providing service there (which happened in the outskirts of my hometown, despite us already having a much superior self-sufficient ISP with lower cost.) > I didn't know it was that easy to do. Don't tell Comcast, please. They would be delighted to hear that terms of service is all it took to convince you to override NN. Yes, their terms of service is all Comcast needs should there not be net neutrality. You are indeed renting it all from them. Net neutrality will stop them from doing what Google can already do. I hardly doubt Google's account terminations has anywhere near the level of impact that the lack of net neutrality will have. Once again, you can host your site/media/email and manage your DNS elsewhere. The key to taking down Google's kingdom is to set up competition. Net neutrality will help with that. And a sidepoint: You should always back up your videos/files/etc. Then if Youtube/etc is taken down somehow, or your account is terminated, you'll still be able to put it up elsewhere.
- AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
  >And a sidepoint: You should always back up your videos/files/etc. Then if Youtube/etc is taken down somehow, or your account is terminated, you'll still be able to put it up elsewhere. How do I backup my audience? >The key to taking down Google's kingdom is to set up competition. Tread one overlord for another, or be an overlord yourself. I think anti-competitive behavior laws will play a role in taking down Google. I can't believe I typed that. I loved, loved, loved Google two months ago. Few with political agenda have co-opted years of work of thousands of imaginative, hard working, caring engineers. Now, I want Google broken up by the government using anti-trust.
  - prophesi 9y ago
    Just two months ago? I've been red-pilled for the past decade.
    - AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
      Red-pilled a year and half ago. I still liked Google, the technical parts. The political advocacy was uncomfortable, but OK, political agenda implementation is downright scary.

prophesi 9y ago

Finally, some good points. > When it comes to dire situations, if my ISP does funny business, I can choose another ISP e.g. a mobile connection. No, a mobile connection is hardly a replacement for a traditional internet connection. You can't host a site or connect to it with most devices, for example. And no, most people can't choose another ISP. Comcast will have run out all other competitors, or receive funding from the government to build their infrastructure and outlaw any other ISP's from providing service there (which happened in the outskirts of my hometown, despite us already having a much superior self-sufficient ISP with lower cost.) > I didn't know it was that easy to do. Don't tell Comcast, please. They would be delighted to hear that terms of service is all it took to convince you to override NN. Yes, their terms of service is all Comcast needs should there not be net neutrality. You are indeed renting it all from them. Net neutrality will stop them from doing what Google can already do. I hardly doubt Google's account terminations has anywhere near the level of impact that the lack of net neutrality will have. Once again, you can host your site/media/email and manage your DNS elsewhere. The key to taking down Google's kingdom is to set up competition. Net neutrality will help with that. And a sidepoint: You should always back up your videos/files/etc. Then if Youtube/etc is taken down somehow, or your account is terminated, you'll still be able to put it up elsewhere.

AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
>And a sidepoint: You should always back up your videos/files/etc. Then if Youtube/etc is taken down somehow, or your account is terminated, you'll still be able to put it up elsewhere. How do I backup my audience? >The key to taking down Google's kingdom is to set up competition. Tread one overlord for another, or be an overlord yourself. I think anti-competitive behavior laws will play a role in taking down Google. I can't believe I typed that. I loved, loved, loved Google two months ago. Few with political agenda have co-opted years of work of thousands of imaginative, hard working, caring engineers. Now, I want Google broken up by the government using anti-trust.
- prophesi 9y ago
  Just two months ago? I've been red-pilled for the past decade.
  - AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
    Red-pilled a year and half ago. I still liked Google, the technical parts. The political advocacy was uncomfortable, but OK, political agenda implementation is downright scary.