I agree that container orchestrations seem very young. I'd like to see an abstraction at a higher level and be able to define I'd like these machines to run the

I agree that container orchestrations seem very young. I'd like to see an abstraction at a higher level and be able to define I'd like these machines to run these containers and scale when under load in this specific way. The platform should take care of all the difficult parts of getting containers talking, provisioning servers and setting up load balancers etc. That is the dream of docker I think and after setting up swarm they are closest but it still feels both too close the underlying infrastructure (terraform etc.) or not clear how to automate the discovery and so on.