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All kind of horrifying... lizards specifically can die if it gets cold enough. I have a couple bearded dragons thinking of someone just shipping them, taking i

All kind of horrifying... lizards specifically can die if it gets cold enough. I have a couple bearded dragons thinking of someone just shipping them, taking it to chance they don't get too cold and get sick, scared and alone is just a sad sad sad thought.

asddddd 9y ago
Yeah, stuff goes wrong in shipping, particularly since it seems most people have a vague idea that packages just teleport to the destination. When it gets cold, this means issues like exploding wine bottles and frozen tropical fish.
- Alison666 9y ago
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- fapjacks 9y ago
  USPS is great for destroying both packages and the vague idea that packages just teleport to their destination.
  - ceejayoz 9y ago
    It's fascinating to me how disparate experiences are with the USPS. I've probably received hundreds of packages from Amazon via USPS, plus years worth of mail, with maybe one or two incidents of minor damage to the packages. I wonder if anyone has done research into whether this is region-specific. Maybe certain processing facilities are older or have problematic management?
    - VLM 9y ago
      Its at least nationwide. Three hundred million happy people, a handful of unhappy people, we will read endlessly online about how awful the service is. Online review sites suffer from the same effect. See also the safety of jetliner travel.
      - fapjacks 9y ago
        Oh, you're in touch with three hundred million happy USPS users?
thatBilly 9y ago
I have bought and sold hundreds of invertebrates around the world, all transported by standard mail services. I've sent probably 40 parcels successfully and received around 80 in the past 15 years. We avoid sending them in winter, if it's not the height of summer (depending on species) we enclose heat packs. They are always extremely well insulated, ventilated and padded. Poor packaging and mailing is heavily criticised in the pet invertebrates hobby, people are ostracised if they continue to endanger livestock or potentially cause injury to mail workers. I had one parcel containing dozens of centipedes from China damaged, with centipedes escaping. I had a parcel from Germany containing tarantulas sat at the post office for days because the postman on foot thought the parcel was too big and the one with the van disagreed. Tarantulas died. I have some limited experience of mailing reptiles in the UK from around 15-20 years ago but it's heavily frowned upon, probably illegal and reputable dealers will only use pet couriers. I could imagine a small snake could be mailed safely but I'm also horrified at the thought of mailing a bearded dragon or chameleon.
- wavefunction 9y ago
  >>one parcel containing dozens of centipedes from China damaged, with centipedes escaping It sounds like between the parcel services and y'all, there's a hell of a lot of irresponsible behavior going on.
- bbarn 9y ago
  I was quite the tarantula enthusiast at one time, and also sent and received a lot of spiders in the mail. I once had an Aphonopelma species - a desert dwelling tarantula - arrive completely frozen solid when the shipper said it would have heat packs (and was only a 1 day trip from AZ). I'll skip the boring part of the story, but it thawed, and lived.
- linuxps2 9y ago
  USPS/FedEx overnight is the go-to method for shipping snakes in the US. There is special packaging to maintain consistent temps. That's how I got my carpet python
  - 9y ago
_ph_ 9y ago
Of course the person who ships animals via any mail service has to ensure proper conditions. So don't ship animals when the weather is either to hot or too cold, and of course proper packaging is important too. Some species, like aquarium shrimps, can easily be sent by mail as long as the temperatures are ok, but for example in Germany, there also exists delivery services who specialize on animal transport. They guarantee over night delivery and also keeping the animals away from heat or cold.

asddddd 9y ago

Yeah, stuff goes wrong in shipping, particularly since it seems most people have a vague idea that packages just teleport to the destination. When it gets cold, this means issues like exploding wine bottles and frozen tropical fish.

Alison666 9y ago
мy neιgнвor'ѕ мoм мaĸeѕ 78 per нoυr on тнe ιnтerneт. ѕнe нaѕ вeen ғιred ғroм worĸ ғor eιgнт мonтнѕ. тнe prevιoυѕ мonтн нer cнecĸ waѕ 16615 worĸιng on тнe ιnтerneт ғor a ғew нoυrѕ every weeĸ. ѕee ====http://www.todaysfox.com http://www.todaysfox.com
fapjacks 9y ago
USPS is great for destroying both packages and the vague idea that packages just teleport to their destination.
- ceejayoz 9y ago
  It's fascinating to me how disparate experiences are with the USPS. I've probably received hundreds of packages from Amazon via USPS, plus years worth of mail, with maybe one or two incidents of minor damage to the packages. I wonder if anyone has done research into whether this is region-specific. Maybe certain processing facilities are older or have problematic management?
  - VLM 9y ago
    Its at least nationwide. Three hundred million happy people, a handful of unhappy people, we will read endlessly online about how awful the service is. Online review sites suffer from the same effect. See also the safety of jetliner travel.
    - fapjacks 9y ago
      Oh, you're in touch with three hundred million happy USPS users?

thatBilly 9y ago

I have bought and sold hundreds of invertebrates around the world, all transported by standard mail services. I've sent probably 40 parcels successfully and received around 80 in the past 15 years. We avoid sending them in winter, if it's not the height of summer (depending on species) we enclose heat packs. They are always extremely well insulated, ventilated and padded. Poor packaging and mailing is heavily criticised in the pet invertebrates hobby, people are ostracised if they continue to endanger livestock or potentially cause injury to mail workers. I had one parcel containing dozens of centipedes from China damaged, with centipedes escaping. I had a parcel from Germany containing tarantulas sat at the post office for days because the postman on foot thought the parcel was too big and the one with the van disagreed. Tarantulas died. I have some limited experience of mailing reptiles in the UK from around 15-20 years ago but it's heavily frowned upon, probably illegal and reputable dealers will only use pet couriers. I could imagine a small snake could be mailed safely but I'm also horrified at the thought of mailing a bearded dragon or chameleon.

wavefunction 9y ago
>>one parcel containing dozens of centipedes from China damaged, with centipedes escaping It sounds like between the parcel services and y'all, there's a hell of a lot of irresponsible behavior going on.
bbarn 9y ago
I was quite the tarantula enthusiast at one time, and also sent and received a lot of spiders in the mail. I once had an Aphonopelma species - a desert dwelling tarantula - arrive completely frozen solid when the shipper said it would have heat packs (and was only a 1 day trip from AZ). I'll skip the boring part of the story, but it thawed, and lived.
linuxps2 9y ago
USPS/FedEx overnight is the go-to method for shipping snakes in the US. There is special packaging to maintain consistent temps. That's how I got my carpet python
- 9y ago

_ph_ 9y ago

Of course the person who ships animals via any mail service has to ensure proper conditions. So don't ship animals when the weather is either to hot or too cold, and of course proper packaging is important too. Some species, like aquarium shrimps, can easily be sent by mail as long as the temperatures are ok, but for example in Germany, there also exists delivery services who specialize on animal transport. They guarantee over night delivery and also keeping the animals away from heat or cold.