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> Getting into mailing list wars and trying to make everyone happy ensures you end up like Nokia - too late to matter and with no more money. That's not helpful
by olau 9y ago
> Getting into mailing list wars and trying to make everyone happy ensures you end up like Nokia - too late to matter and with no more money. That's not helpful to anyone.
Not arguing about the rest of your post, but the above is incorrect.
Nokia didn't go bust because they tried to cooperate with the rest of the world. You can be cooperative and still say no to people.
If I'm not mistaken Android was developed in submerged mode for a long time, for business reasons.
- kllrnohj 9y agoWell you can also look at how attempts by Google and others to upstream went initially. Mainline outright rejected some of the core tenants of what Android was doing just because it hadn't been an issue on desktop/servers. Things have since slowly changed, but even stuff that shouldn't have been controversial (like ashmem) still took years and when mainline finally added an equivalent (memfd_create) it is just incompatible enough in core behavior that Android can't switch to it.
- shmerl 9y agoIt was the other way around, it went badly because they didn't collaborate from the start. Android was a huge code drop when it was published and upstreaming wasn't exactly their primary focus.