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Why has no-one brought back a JuicyCampus clone?

16 points by keltecp11 16y ago

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thefahim 16y ago
http://collegeacb.com/ http://collegeacb.com/ is big at Penn State.
- necubi 16y ago
  Here at Wesleyan, too, where the kid that runs it, Peter Frank, attends. When Juicycampus shut down he paid them to redirect their traffic to collegeacb, but it seems the deal is off now. However, running this sort of of site is really asking for trouble. Peter gets a lot of flak for providing this outlet for anonymous spittle between students, with some people even threatening lawsuits (for example, http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1942971,00.html http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1942971,00....).
- viggity 16y ago
  I just looked up my alma mater on this website. It is so fucking sad that websites like this exist, it is just toxic. The vile and the vitriol, I mean wtf?
hugh3 16y ago
What was it? There's not enough info in the linked blogpost to figure it out.
- colonelxc 16y ago
  Apparently, an uncensored gossip site for college campuses. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Juicy_Campus https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Juicy_Campus Though I was in college throughout most of the existence of Juicy Campus, I never heard of it, though it's possible my school wasn't in their list, or it just didn't gain traction there.
ddemchuk 16y ago
"Unfortunately, even with great traffic and strong user loyalty, a business can’t survive and grow without a steady stream of revenue to support it. In these historically difficult economic times, online ad revenue has plummeted and venture capital funding has dissolved. JuicyCampus’ exponential growth outpaced our ability to muster the resources needed to survive this economic downturn, and as a result, we are closing down the site as of Feb. 5, 2009." Sounds like they're in a Reddit-like dilemma... Plus, they received a lot of flack for the stuff they had on there, so it's a headache waiting to happen
zaidf 16y ago
Because it's evil. Initially when I heard of it, I thought it was a great idea. I thought it'd turn out like friends gossipping about friends. But friends gossipping isn't google-able. It also isn't that anonymous. When you gossip in person, or with your identity on the line(versus anonymous gossipping), it significantly restricts the damage potential. Why would you want to create a tool that is primarily used to hurt random college students? Not a rhetorical question, I'd really like to know the views on the other side. To me, it makes no sense from any of the key angles(doing something I can be proud of; making money).
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  - tkahn6 16y ago
    There's a large difference between gossiping within your circle of friends and committing character assassination in a public forum with complete anonymity. I just went to Virginia Tech's section on http://collegeacb.com http://collegeacb.com and on the front page is: "(Name removed) -Incoming Whore" ".... I NEEDED to warn everyone. I went to school with a girl named (Name removed) (Known as (Name removed) "Sluttman") and she is a fat, backstabbing bitch that has STDs. Girls, don't be her friend...."
- w1ntermute 16y ago
  Because it's evil. Which makes it all the more surprising that no one has brought it back.
- keltecp11 16y ago
  There is a lot of evil on the internet. I am not supporting what it stood for - I am simply curious.
cmelbye 16y ago
I've made something like that but specific to our school. It was sort of an automated "Gossip Girl" system that used Twilio to send texts of various tips. It relied on secrecy though, which was impossible to preserve in the end.
kacy 16y ago
I wonder what a mashup of twitter/4chan/foursquare would look like. In my large lectures, it's not uncommon for more than half of the students to have laptops open and on facebook. Imagine being able to have a real time discussion in a classroom/stadium/concert hall that's completely anonymous. I got bored one weekend and created a rough working version using rails, but I scrapped it because I didn't want to maintain the site much less promote it. What do you all think?
- blantonl 16y ago
  You should consider posting your rough working session to the community and let them take it from there. There are lots of folks that enjoy taking seeds and planting them -- there are lots more folks who enjoy nurturing and maintaing the result.
- eli 16y ago
  Isn't that what Google Buzz was supposed to be?
- jackowayed 16y ago
  >Imagine being able to have a real time discussion in a classroom/stadium/concert hall that's completely anonymous. Most programming conferences have some kind of "backchannel", such as BackNoise(.com), that is just what you describe. And the results are not always pretty: http://blog.weatherby.net/2009/09/dont-blame-backnoise-atlanta-new-media-conference.html http://blog.weatherby.net/2009/09/dont-blame-backnoise-atlan...
AnonPm42 16y ago
I am one of the (anonymous, though my phone number is unblocked) developers of http://www.dirtyphonebook.com http://www.dirtyphonebook.com and to me that's the closest thing to Juicy Campus. It's a better version, because it affects everybody. The site wasn't my idea, but I came up with the toolbar and some of the cool existing features and some of the features we're working on implementing right now. We are working on implementing pictures and other cool location and search-based features very soon. Even though the site is admittedly very sophomoric right now it's going to be one of the most useful resources for all types of personal information fairly soon. Think spokeo and wikipedia and facebook on steroids. To those that suggest this concept is evil, DirtyPhoneBook site has exposed cheaters, abusive people that go after people with guns, child-support deadbeats, drug-dealers that sell to kids, and other scum too. There needs to be methods of punishing mean and evil people. I was randomly punched in the face and beaten up in highschool. I've gotten fired from a job I loved before because somebody else screwed up and they had power to blame me. I think the DPB concept is incredibly underrated because it gives you a way to expose jerks with no way of tracing who said anything. The anonymity allows a lot to come out that otherwise wouldn't. Free Speech should always triumph over censorship. For the good of society, http://www.dirtyphonebook.com http://www.dirtyphonebook.com is the first place that let's anybody tell the truth about anybody without any censorship. We're working on some fabulous stuff that is going to entertain and amaze people. ;)
- cloudkj 16y ago
  I recently created http://feedbark.com http://feedbark.com with pretty much the same idea as this. You use the service and submit anonymous feedback against someone's identity. That portion just never seemed to gain traction, at least amongst the small number of users I had try it out. There was a restriction that feedback had to be approved before it's shown, which I suppose slightly detracted from the "instant gratification" of submitting unsolicited feedback to someone. Ultimately, I cut out that part of the service because in order to do it "right" (i.e. avoid slander and general hostility), the feature just doesn't have enough juice to get traction. After searching for a bit, it looks like Unvarnished has a similar idea. It's a Yelp for people. Not sure how much traction it's getting.
- jackowayed 16y ago
mkjones 16y ago
1. Colleges contain a bunch of kids with rich, litigious parents. 2. Colleges are run by a bunch of administrators who cater to rich, litigious parents, and whose primary source of revenue is more of those parents in the coming years. They are thus rather sensitive about their brand. 3. In anonymous forums, people pick on those they feel unable to pick on otherwise (due to social norms, fear of retribution, etc). Rich kids often fit these criteria. 4. It's probably tough to find advertisers to want to have their content next to a bunch of hateful stuff.

16 points by keltecp11 16y ago

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thefahim 16y ago

http://collegeacb.com/ http://collegeacb.com/ is big at Penn State.

necubi 16y ago
Here at Wesleyan, too, where the kid that runs it, Peter Frank, attends. When Juicycampus shut down he paid them to redirect their traffic to collegeacb, but it seems the deal is off now. However, running this sort of of site is really asking for trouble. Peter gets a lot of flak for providing this outlet for anonymous spittle between students, with some people even threatening lawsuits (for example, http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1942971,00.html http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1942971,00....).
viggity 16y ago
I just looked up my alma mater on this website. It is so fucking sad that websites like this exist, it is just toxic. The vile and the vitriol, I mean wtf?

hugh3 16y ago

What was it? There's not enough info in the linked blogpost to figure it out.

colonelxc 16y ago
Apparently, an uncensored gossip site for college campuses. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Juicy_Campus https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Juicy_Campus Though I was in college throughout most of the existence of Juicy Campus, I never heard of it, though it's possible my school wasn't in their list, or it just didn't gain traction there.

ddemchuk 16y ago

"Unfortunately, even with great traffic and strong user loyalty, a business can’t survive and grow without a steady stream of revenue to support it. In these historically difficult economic times, online ad revenue has plummeted and venture capital funding has dissolved. JuicyCampus’ exponential growth outpaced our ability to muster the resources needed to survive this economic downturn, and as a result, we are closing down the site as of Feb. 5, 2009." Sounds like they're in a Reddit-like dilemma... Plus, they received a lot of flack for the stuff they had on there, so it's a headache waiting to happen

zaidf 16y ago

Because it's evil. Initially when I heard of it, I thought it was a great idea. I thought it'd turn out like friends gossipping about friends. But friends gossipping isn't google-able. It also isn't that anonymous. When you gossip in person, or with your identity on the line(versus anonymous gossipping), it significantly restricts the damage potential. Why would you want to create a tool that is primarily used to hurt random college students? Not a rhetorical question, I'd really like to know the views on the other side. To me, it makes no sense from any of the key angles(doing something I can be proud of; making money).

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- tkahn6 16y ago
  There's a large difference between gossiping within your circle of friends and committing character assassination in a public forum with complete anonymity. I just went to Virginia Tech's section on http://collegeacb.com http://collegeacb.com and on the front page is: "(Name removed) -Incoming Whore" ".... I NEEDED to warn everyone. I went to school with a girl named (Name removed) (Known as (Name removed) "Sluttman") and she is a fat, backstabbing bitch that has STDs. Girls, don't be her friend...."
w1ntermute 16y ago
Because it's evil. Which makes it all the more surprising that no one has brought it back.
keltecp11 16y ago
There is a lot of evil on the internet. I am not supporting what it stood for - I am simply curious.

cmelbye 16y ago

I've made something like that but specific to our school. It was sort of an automated "Gossip Girl" system that used Twilio to send texts of various tips. It relied on secrecy though, which was impossible to preserve in the end.

kacy 16y ago

I wonder what a mashup of twitter/4chan/foursquare would look like. In my large lectures, it's not uncommon for more than half of the students to have laptops open and on facebook. Imagine being able to have a real time discussion in a classroom/stadium/concert hall that's completely anonymous. I got bored one weekend and created a rough working version using rails, but I scrapped it because I didn't want to maintain the site much less promote it. What do you all think?

blantonl 16y ago
You should consider posting your rough working session to the community and let them take it from there. There are lots of folks that enjoy taking seeds and planting them -- there are lots more folks who enjoy nurturing and maintaing the result.
eli 16y ago
Isn't that what Google Buzz was supposed to be?
jackowayed 16y ago
>Imagine being able to have a real time discussion in a classroom/stadium/concert hall that's completely anonymous. Most programming conferences have some kind of "backchannel", such as BackNoise(.com), that is just what you describe. And the results are not always pretty: http://blog.weatherby.net/2009/09/dont-blame-backnoise-atlanta-new-media-conference.html http://blog.weatherby.net/2009/09/dont-blame-backnoise-atlan...

AnonPm42 16y ago

I am one of the (anonymous, though my phone number is unblocked) developers of http://www.dirtyphonebook.com http://www.dirtyphonebook.com and to me that's the closest thing to Juicy Campus. It's a better version, because it affects everybody. The site wasn't my idea, but I came up with the toolbar and some of the cool existing features and some of the features we're working on implementing right now. We are working on implementing pictures and other cool location and search-based features very soon. Even though the site is admittedly very sophomoric right now it's going to be one of the most useful resources for all types of personal information fairly soon. Think spokeo and wikipedia and facebook on steroids. To those that suggest this concept is evil, DirtyPhoneBook site has exposed cheaters, abusive people that go after people with guns, child-support deadbeats, drug-dealers that sell to kids, and other scum too. There needs to be methods of punishing mean and evil people. I was randomly punched in the face and beaten up in highschool. I've gotten fired from a job I loved before because somebody else screwed up and they had power to blame me. I think the DPB concept is incredibly underrated because it gives you a way to expose jerks with no way of tracing who said anything. The anonymity allows a lot to come out that otherwise wouldn't. Free Speech should always triumph over censorship. For the good of society, http://www.dirtyphonebook.com http://www.dirtyphonebook.com is the first place that let's anybody tell the truth about anybody without any censorship. We're working on some fabulous stuff that is going to entertain and amaze people. ;)

cloudkj 16y ago
I recently created http://feedbark.com http://feedbark.com with pretty much the same idea as this. You use the service and submit anonymous feedback against someone's identity. That portion just never seemed to gain traction, at least amongst the small number of users I had try it out. There was a restriction that feedback had to be approved before it's shown, which I suppose slightly detracted from the "instant gratification" of submitting unsolicited feedback to someone. Ultimately, I cut out that part of the service because in order to do it "right" (i.e. avoid slander and general hostility), the feature just doesn't have enough juice to get traction. After searching for a bit, it looks like Unvarnished has a similar idea. It's a Yelp for people. Not sure how much traction it's getting.
jackowayed 16y ago

mkjones 16y ago

1. Colleges contain a bunch of kids with rich, litigious parents. 2. Colleges are run by a bunch of administrators who cater to rich, litigious parents, and whose primary source of revenue is more of those parents in the coming years. They are thus rather sensitive about their brand. 3. In anonymous forums, people pick on those they feel unable to pick on otherwise (due to social norms, fear of retribution, etc). Rich kids often fit these criteria. 4. It's probably tough to find advertisers to want to have their content next to a bunch of hateful stuff.