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net neutrality ensures you can get to youtube\twitter\reddit\facebook without the ISP charging you more or throttling sites. It has nothing to to with free spee

net neutrality ensures you can get to youtube\twitter\reddit\facebook without the ISP charging you more or throttling sites. It has nothing to to with free speech or altering the policies of individual sites. Think of it like water. Your water company doesn't care if you are flushing the toilet or taking a shower. They just give you water and charge a rate. The internet works this way now and we want to keep it that way. Opposing net nutrality means you will end up with this: http://www.wordstream.com/images/what-is-net-neutrality-isp-package-diagram.jpg http://www.wordstream.com/images/what-is-net-neutrality-isp-... They are going to create a "slow lane" and charge you more to use it.

AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
The slow or fast lane doesn't matter, if I am going to be denied at the destination anyway.
- devopsproject 9y ago
  Free speech only protects you from government persecution. It doesn't control how owners of private property react. You are still going to get banned and moderated, it will just be a lot slower and a lot more expensive for you. And if you keep getting denied you should probably try and find out why people find you so toxic and repulsive.
  - AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
    People? They are many who would be OK with what I have to say. The problem is the platform owners want full fairness when they talk (TCP/IP, the platform they use) but want full God powers when their platform is concerned (Social Media Sites, the platform I use). Do you see the hypocrisy of Google/Youtube/Facebook/Reddit/Twitter? If Comcast shouldn't decide what travels on their wires, then why should Google get to decide what the Youtube video says?
    - devopsproject 9y ago
      > If Comcast shouldn't decide what travels on their wires, then why should Google get to decide what the Youtube video says? Comcast doesn't get to decide for the same reason the water company doesn't decide what I use my water for. And you are free to say what you want in my house but you'd be thrown out pretty quickly if I didn't like what you had to say. Your house is no different. And Google's house is no different too. This isn't a difficult concept
      - AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
        Google is not a private entity, it is a public corporation with share holders. We hold government with highest demands for equality, we hold private individuals and fully owned businesses with most freedom to discriminate. We hold public corporations somewhere in between. >Google's house Sure. Nobody cared when things were being said about Egypt's Mubarak. But say something that some Google executives don't like, you are out of there. Is there a difference between a private entity and a public corporation? If I run my own plumbing company, I can hire my son without putting up an ad in the paper. Should a Google executive be allowed to hire her husband without putting up an ad? We hold public companies at a higher standard that private individuals, correctly so. What if Mead stopped you from using their notebook to write down a thought that they don't agree with?
        devopsproject 9y ago
        Using youtube is a privileged, not a right. Google can censor because its user's agree to it as part of their terms of service.
        AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
        And Comcast will make their ability to slow down or speed up packets a part of their terms of service. done. Glad you agree that Comcast has that right, just like Google. NN doesn't matter if Google can pay God with paying customers, who pay each month for gsuite products, got their account cancelled because Google didn't like what they posted. I would take slow lane over that every day. Capitalism when I like it, socialism when I don't. That is hypocritical.

AmIFirstToThink 9y ago

The slow or fast lane doesn't matter, if I am going to be denied at the destination anyway.

devopsproject 9y ago
Free speech only protects you from government persecution. It doesn't control how owners of private property react. You are still going to get banned and moderated, it will just be a lot slower and a lot more expensive for you. And if you keep getting denied you should probably try and find out why people find you so toxic and repulsive.
- AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
  People? They are many who would be OK with what I have to say. The problem is the platform owners want full fairness when they talk (TCP/IP, the platform they use) but want full God powers when their platform is concerned (Social Media Sites, the platform I use). Do you see the hypocrisy of Google/Youtube/Facebook/Reddit/Twitter? If Comcast shouldn't decide what travels on their wires, then why should Google get to decide what the Youtube video says?
  - devopsproject 9y ago
    > If Comcast shouldn't decide what travels on their wires, then why should Google get to decide what the Youtube video says? Comcast doesn't get to decide for the same reason the water company doesn't decide what I use my water for. And you are free to say what you want in my house but you'd be thrown out pretty quickly if I didn't like what you had to say. Your house is no different. And Google's house is no different too. This isn't a difficult concept
    - AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
      Google is not a private entity, it is a public corporation with share holders. We hold government with highest demands for equality, we hold private individuals and fully owned businesses with most freedom to discriminate. We hold public corporations somewhere in between. >Google's house Sure. Nobody cared when things were being said about Egypt's Mubarak. But say something that some Google executives don't like, you are out of there. Is there a difference between a private entity and a public corporation? If I run my own plumbing company, I can hire my son without putting up an ad in the paper. Should a Google executive be allowed to hire her husband without putting up an ad? We hold public companies at a higher standard that private individuals, correctly so. What if Mead stopped you from using their notebook to write down a thought that they don't agree with?
      - devopsproject 9y ago
        Using youtube is a privileged, not a right. Google can censor because its user's agree to it as part of their terms of service.
        AmIFirstToThink 9y ago
        And Comcast will make their ability to slow down or speed up packets a part of their terms of service. done. Glad you agree that Comcast has that right, just like Google. NN doesn't matter if Google can pay God with paying customers, who pay each month for gsuite products, got their account cancelled because Google didn't like what they posted. I would take slow lane over that every day. Capitalism when I like it, socialism when I don't. That is hypocritical.