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> increasing racism against Jews This is true. > Men usually wear a baseball-cap over the Kippah in public But this is right-wing bullshit. The rise in anti

> increasing racism against Jews This is true. > Men usually wear a baseball-cap over the Kippah in public But this is right-wing bullshit. The rise in anti-Semitic crimes is used by Pegida to stir up fear of refugees, Muslims, and Islam, and it's also used by Netanyahu and the Israeli / Jewish right to encourage immigration to Israel. The reality is that the rise in anti-Semitism begins in 2014, prior to the refugee crisis. It's tracked the Europe-wide rise of the right, not anything related to "Muslim integration" (which in turn is often a code-word for not letting other people wear other kinds of head coverings). Much of it is even linked to Pegida-adjacent groups or people.

cobookman 9y ago
He never said refugees. I'd also comment France and other eu countries have done no better with their newer Muslim populations
- lorenzfx 9y ago
  This study [0] (sorry it's in German, English reporting on it: [1, 2]) supports your claim that integration is more or less equally bad across the studied countries. Different countries fail at different aspects of it. [0] http://www.bertelsmann-stiftung.de/fileadmin/files/BSt/Publikationen/GrauePublikationen/Studie_LW_Religionsmonitor-2017_Muslime-in-Europa.pdf http://www.bertelsmann-stiftung.de/fileadmin/files/BSt/Publi... [1] https://www.thelocal.de/20170824/integration-of-muslims-better-in-germany-than-in-rest-of-europe https://www.thelocal.de/20170824/integration-of-muslims-bett... [2] http://www.politico.eu/article/muslims-integrate-in-europe-despite-discrimination-study/ http://www.politico.eu/article/muslims-integrate-in-europe-d... EDIT: originally I misread that OP claimed that other countries did better, changed wording accordingly
  - elliotec 9y ago
    You're proving the parent's point. They said those EU countries do NO better.
    - lorenzfx 9y ago
      you are right, I should learn to read.
s3nnyy 9y ago
Ehm, you won't see any Kippah in public because Jews in Germany are scared since decades. I did not say anything about refugees or recent events although these things surely amplified the bad things already happening in Germany since a long time. Go stand next to a (usually Police guarded) Synagogue for an hour and see for yourself how guys leaving the thing put on baseball caps. Unfortunately, this is not right-wing bullshit.
- steveeq1 9y ago
  I don't get it, aren't germans super-touchy about nazi issues and the holocaust? I would imagine jews would be in some sort of "protected class" status in germany, at least culturally.
  - s3nnyy 9y ago
    They are but it's usually not Germans who beat up and insult Jews: http://www.focus.de/familie/mobbing/religioese-spannungen-entladen-sich-in-schulen-du-jude-lehrer-warnen-vor-religioese-radikalisierung-von-schuelernverbale-entgleisungen-und-beleidungen_id_4647831.html http://www.focus.de/familie/mobbing/religioese-spannungen-en...
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- socialist_coder 9y ago
  I wonder how that is true given that Berlin has an extremely large and militant Antifa presence. I can't imagine anyone getting away with a hate crime here. If your store is even suspected of selling fascist stuff it gets vandalized! Berlin is about the biggest anti-fascist place I know.
  - prewett 9y ago
    Isn't forcible suppression of opposition a characteristic of fascism? Sounds like antifa are, themselves, fairly fascist.
fgjjgutjvnu 9y ago
citation?
honestoHeminway 9y ago
There was always a strong anti-semitic vibe in community who migrated from the middle east. But hey, no need to call it out- its part of there culture. Like its part of pegidas culture to squash the left who was idiotic enough to welcome every radical conservative as long as he had exotic flair.
_pmf_ 9y ago
> It's tracked the Europe-wide rise of the right, not anything related to "Muslim integration" Go to any schoolyard and observe members of which ethnic groups use anti-semitic slurs. (I'm not talking about "more frequent", I'm talking about using them at all.) I seriously implore you to think about what it would be like to be a Jewish pupil in certain districts of Köln or Berlin and implore you to say with a straight face that anti-semitism is caused by the (far-)right.

cobookman 9y ago

He never said refugees. I'd also comment France and other eu countries have done no better with their newer Muslim populations

lorenzfx 9y ago
This study [0] (sorry it's in German, English reporting on it: [1, 2]) supports your claim that integration is more or less equally bad across the studied countries. Different countries fail at different aspects of it. [0] http://www.bertelsmann-stiftung.de/fileadmin/files/BSt/Publikationen/GrauePublikationen/Studie_LW_Religionsmonitor-2017_Muslime-in-Europa.pdf http://www.bertelsmann-stiftung.de/fileadmin/files/BSt/Publi... [1] https://www.thelocal.de/20170824/integration-of-muslims-better-in-germany-than-in-rest-of-europe https://www.thelocal.de/20170824/integration-of-muslims-bett... [2] http://www.politico.eu/article/muslims-integrate-in-europe-despite-discrimination-study/ http://www.politico.eu/article/muslims-integrate-in-europe-d... EDIT: originally I misread that OP claimed that other countries did better, changed wording accordingly
- elliotec 9y ago
  You're proving the parent's point. They said those EU countries do NO better.
  - lorenzfx 9y ago
    you are right, I should learn to read.

s3nnyy 9y ago

Ehm, you won't see any Kippah in public because Jews in Germany are scared since decades. I did not say anything about refugees or recent events although these things surely amplified the bad things already happening in Germany since a long time. Go stand next to a (usually Police guarded) Synagogue for an hour and see for yourself how guys leaving the thing put on baseball caps. Unfortunately, this is not right-wing bullshit.

steveeq1 9y ago
I don't get it, aren't germans super-touchy about nazi issues and the holocaust? I would imagine jews would be in some sort of "protected class" status in germany, at least culturally.
- s3nnyy 9y ago
  They are but it's usually not Germans who beat up and insult Jews: http://www.focus.de/familie/mobbing/religioese-spannungen-entladen-sich-in-schulen-du-jude-lehrer-warnen-vor-religioese-radikalisierung-von-schuelernverbale-entgleisungen-und-beleidungen_id_4647831.html http://www.focus.de/familie/mobbing/religioese-spannungen-en...
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socialist_coder 9y ago
I wonder how that is true given that Berlin has an extremely large and militant Antifa presence. I can't imagine anyone getting away with a hate crime here. If your store is even suspected of selling fascist stuff it gets vandalized! Berlin is about the biggest anti-fascist place I know.
- prewett 9y ago
  Isn't forcible suppression of opposition a characteristic of fascism? Sounds like antifa are, themselves, fairly fascist.

fgjjgutjvnu 9y ago

citation?

honestoHeminway 9y ago

There was always a strong anti-semitic vibe in community who migrated from the middle east. But hey, no need to call it out- its part of there culture. Like its part of pegidas culture to squash the left who was idiotic enough to welcome every radical conservative as long as he had exotic flair.

_pmf_ 9y ago

> It's tracked the Europe-wide rise of the right, not anything related to "Muslim integration" Go to any schoolyard and observe members of which ethnic groups use anti-semitic slurs. (I'm not talking about "more frequent", I'm talking about using them at all.) I seriously implore you to think about what it would be like to be a Jewish pupil in certain districts of Köln or Berlin and implore you to say with a straight face that anti-semitism is caused by the (far-)right.