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"If we're talking about America's youth": 1 & 3 (to a lesser degree) are not about youth, but about elders... because young people don't need as much healthcare

"If we're talking about America's youth": 1 & 3 (to a lesser degree) are not about youth, but about elders... because young people don't need as much healthcare and their life expectancy isn't a problem until they age.

freehunter 9y ago
Young people don't need as much healthcare, but young people still pay for healthcare nonetheless. And people of all ages are less likely to take risks with their employment when their healthcare is tied to their current job.
sillysaurus3 9y ago
I'm still pretty young and I need health care. I'm not sure why this myth keeps persisting. We all need regular cancer checkups, and you simply can't do that as a young person in America without health insurance.
- njarboe 9y ago
  What is a "regular cancer checkup" we all need? I don't think I have ever had one. Do you mean just the standard physical checkup? That should be around $100-$200 and not something you would need insurance for. Mammograms and colonoscopies are more for people over 50, not for the young (50 is the new 20?) and still don't cost that much.
  - sillysaurus3 9y ago
    I sounded like a fruitcake in the above comment, so let's try again. https://www.reddit.com/r/drunk/comments/6wnp9r/last_night_of_fun_before_chemo_starts_wish_me/dm9mhhk/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/drunk/comments/6wnp9r/last_night_of... Cancer patients, both 33. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15022525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15022525 35. The main issue is that when problems crop up, you're less likely to get them checked out if you're uninsured. Even $100-200 is 15% of a monthly rent payment. Many people end up taking a "Better ignore the symptoms and hope they go away" approach, which is exactly the wrong thing to do. I agree that "regular checkups" is a stretch, but think of it more like "on a regular basis, you need the ability to go see whether you have serious problems." We call that health insurance in the US, but it sucks for people who can't afford it.
    - njarboe 9y ago
      I know where you are coming from but a growing body of evidence suggests that going to the hospital is really dangerous (lots of nasty bugs) and that a high level of testing and the invasive procedures they lead to may be causing higher injury and mortality (and definitely higher costs). I have Kaiser for my health care plan (calling it health insurance is a bit of a misnomer) and they don't even schedule regular check-ups until you are in your 50's. Your body cures itself for most problems. Knowing when a pain or ache is likely a serious problem is not easy and takes personal awareness and some education. Of course you won't always be right, but you should know how your body works better than your doctor ever could. Not sure how one would try to teach such information in, say, High School.
- nsxwolf 9y ago
  Good God what is a "regular cancer checkup"?

freehunter 9y ago

Young people don't need as much healthcare, but young people still pay for healthcare nonetheless. And people of all ages are less likely to take risks with their employment when their healthcare is tied to their current job.

sillysaurus3 9y ago

I'm still pretty young and I need health care. I'm not sure why this myth keeps persisting. We all need regular cancer checkups, and you simply can't do that as a young person in America without health insurance.

njarboe 9y ago
What is a "regular cancer checkup" we all need? I don't think I have ever had one. Do you mean just the standard physical checkup? That should be around $100-$200 and not something you would need insurance for. Mammograms and colonoscopies are more for people over 50, not for the young (50 is the new 20?) and still don't cost that much.
- sillysaurus3 9y ago
  I sounded like a fruitcake in the above comment, so let's try again. https://www.reddit.com/r/drunk/comments/6wnp9r/last_night_of_fun_before_chemo_starts_wish_me/dm9mhhk/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/drunk/comments/6wnp9r/last_night_of... Cancer patients, both 33. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15022525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15022525 35. The main issue is that when problems crop up, you're less likely to get them checked out if you're uninsured. Even $100-200 is 15% of a monthly rent payment. Many people end up taking a "Better ignore the symptoms and hope they go away" approach, which is exactly the wrong thing to do. I agree that "regular checkups" is a stretch, but think of it more like "on a regular basis, you need the ability to go see whether you have serious problems." We call that health insurance in the US, but it sucks for people who can't afford it.
  - njarboe 9y ago
    I know where you are coming from but a growing body of evidence suggests that going to the hospital is really dangerous (lots of nasty bugs) and that a high level of testing and the invasive procedures they lead to may be causing higher injury and mortality (and definitely higher costs). I have Kaiser for my health care plan (calling it health insurance is a bit of a misnomer) and they don't even schedule regular check-ups until you are in your 50's. Your body cures itself for most problems. Knowing when a pain or ache is likely a serious problem is not easy and takes personal awareness and some education. Of course you won't always be right, but you should know how your body works better than your doctor ever could. Not sure how one would try to teach such information in, say, High School.
nsxwolf 9y ago
Good God what is a "regular cancer checkup"?