> I've never known a USN or USCG vessel to deviate from those rules out of courtesy Ah, not out of courtesy. More out of just pointedly staying away. See, on m

> I've never known a USN or USCG vessel to deviate from those rules out of courtesy Ah, not out of courtesy. More out of just pointedly staying away. See, on most USN ships, the OOD has to call the CO if any ship's CPA is within 5 miles, or some other parameters are violated (you deviate from course more than 10 degrees, more than 10 degrees rudder, etc). So the game is to use all the leeway you have to avoid any situation that would require the captain's attention. So, at least in my day, we kept ourselves engaged at night that way. The Fitzgerald's situation, I can at least understand why the CO wasn't on the bridge. For the McCain, where was the CO when the ship was in the Strait? What else on that ship could have possibly been more important than navigating the Strait?