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The purpose of ARCore is for high-end Android devices to be competitive with the iPhone technologically, not to get on 2 billion devices, at least not now. The

by rsp1984 9y ago

The purpose of ARCore is for high-end Android devices to be competitive with the iPhone technologically, not to get on 2 billion devices, at least not now. Therefore it's fine that they get only 5% to start. I assume it's going to turn into 10%, then 20% quickly. For some perspective the iPhone only has about 15% market share globally.

VectorLock 9y ago
And obviously a very good driver to get people to upgrade to high-end Android phones. There aren't too many use-case drivers for that right now.
s73ver_ 9y ago
It'll only do that if ARCore itself takes off. With such small penetration, it's entirely likely that developers will just focus on Apple's ARKit.
- rsp1984 9y ago
  likely that developers will just focus on Apple's ARKit Most likely someone will just build and offer an abstraction layer on top of ARKit / ARCore and solve the problem that way.
  - s73ver_ 9y ago
    Writing the code is probably the easiest part of all this. Testing and design are going to be huge.
  - k__ 9y ago
    AR.js seems to be doing it at this very moment
  - Benjamin_Dobell 9y ago
    Google have already provided this themselves, plus hooked it up to a 3D rendering engine: https://github.com/google-ar/three.ar.js https://github.com/google-ar/three.ar.js That's assuming you're okay with JS, but if you're going cross-platform then it makes sense if you need to have interactive scenes.
    - pjmlp 9y ago
      The problem with WebVR, is that just like WebGL, it is capped, versus what is possible in actual OpenGL ES.
      - Benjamin_Dobell 9y ago
        I've been developing WebGL software for a client for the last few years and my client has had quite good success selling content based on the software and consumers are using the content. The vast majority of browsers fully support WebGL (1). The biggest performance bottle-neck is the JS itself, specifically stock three.js is quite inefficient. However, that's just a matter of optimising three.js, or using WebGL directly if you need more fine-grained control. You can get a lot done in a browser these days.
        pjmlp 9y ago
        I have seen impressive WebGL demos, but for some reason WebGL always makes the GPU sweat more than plain native code driving my fan at full speed, even though it offers less. Maybe it is a consequence of using JS, I have never researched it.
JimDabell 9y ago
> The purpose of ARCore is for high-end Android devices to be competitive with the iPhone technologically, not to get on 2 billion devices, at least not now. This article is explicitly spun to promote ARCore as "Android scale" and leads with a sentence pointing out that Android is on two billion devices. You're right, their ambitions are much lower, but it's fair to point out their actual goals aren't anywhere near the image they are trying to project and they really shouldn't be bragging about it being "Android scale" when it's nothing of the sort.

VectorLock 9y ago

And obviously a very good driver to get people to upgrade to high-end Android phones. There aren't too many use-case drivers for that right now.

s73ver_ 9y ago

It'll only do that if ARCore itself takes off. With such small penetration, it's entirely likely that developers will just focus on Apple's ARKit.

rsp1984 9y ago
likely that developers will just focus on Apple's ARKit Most likely someone will just build and offer an abstraction layer on top of ARKit / ARCore and solve the problem that way.
- s73ver_ 9y ago
  Writing the code is probably the easiest part of all this. Testing and design are going to be huge.
- k__ 9y ago
  AR.js seems to be doing it at this very moment
- Benjamin_Dobell 9y ago
  Google have already provided this themselves, plus hooked it up to a 3D rendering engine: https://github.com/google-ar/three.ar.js https://github.com/google-ar/three.ar.js That's assuming you're okay with JS, but if you're going cross-platform then it makes sense if you need to have interactive scenes.
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    The problem with WebVR, is that just like WebGL, it is capped, versus what is possible in actual OpenGL ES.
    - Benjamin_Dobell 9y ago
      I've been developing WebGL software for a client for the last few years and my client has had quite good success selling content based on the software and consumers are using the content. The vast majority of browsers fully support WebGL (1). The biggest performance bottle-neck is the JS itself, specifically stock three.js is quite inefficient. However, that's just a matter of optimising three.js, or using WebGL directly if you need more fine-grained control. You can get a lot done in a browser these days.
      - pjmlp 9y ago
        I have seen impressive WebGL demos, but for some reason WebGL always makes the GPU sweat more than plain native code driving my fan at full speed, even though it offers less. Maybe it is a consequence of using JS, I have never researched it.

JimDabell 9y ago

> The purpose of ARCore is for high-end Android devices to be competitive with the iPhone technologically, not to get on 2 billion devices, at least not now. This article is explicitly spun to promote ARCore as "Android scale" and leads with a sentence pointing out that Android is on two billion devices. You're right, their ambitions are much lower, but it's fair to point out their actual goals aren't anywhere near the image they are trying to project and they really shouldn't be bragging about it being "Android scale" when it's nothing of the sort.