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Another truly open alternative in crowdfunding stage (I really wish it will reach its funding goal): https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/ https://puri.sm/shop/librem-

Another truly open alternative in crowdfunding stage (I really wish it will reach its funding goal): https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/ https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

nerdponx 9y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15090156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15090156
tom_mellior 9y ago
Wow. On the one hand, this is really cool. On the other hand, it's 600 USD for a phone that might be delivered in a year and a half and will not be able to run Signal.
- flashdance 9y ago
  It will run debian though, which is way cooler! Plus, you might just be able to use anbox to run signal anyways. https://anbox.io/ https://anbox.io/
- subway 9y ago
  Not running Signal seems like a security feature to me. The official Signal servers, and their stance on requiring a phone number and forbidding 3rd party clients is absurd.
  - aidenn0 9y ago
    What's the alternative? iOS has a poor story for jabber support, and the network effects for jabber are poor; the gradual network onboarding of signal made it easy to capture new users, but made it federation hostile.
    - subway 9y ago
      At the moment, I think Matrix is a solid contender. It's easy enough to use a public servers like matrix.org, or riot.im, or run your own. It's far from a perfect solution, but I feel like it comes closer to the mark than Signal.
- walterbell 9y ago
  The GPD Pocket is shipping for 500 USD, https://liliputing.com/2017/06/gpd-pocket-7-inch-windows-laptop-is-now-available-for-500-no-crowdfunding-required.html https://liliputing.com/2017/06/gpd-pocket-7-inch-windows-lap... https://www.reddit.com/r/GPDPocket/comments/6idnia/linux_on_gpd_pocket/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GPDPocket/comments/6idnia/linux_on_...
  - tom_mellior 9y ago
    As far as I can tell, that doesn't have a SIM card slot, so it's not quite comparable to a mobile phone. I don't care that much about making calls, but mobile Internet access does matter in discussions about smartphones.
    - Pwntastic 9y ago
      I have one. You're correct; it does not have a sim slot.
- tom_mellior 9y ago
  > 600 USD Oh, nevermind, they take Bitcoin, which means other people paid for my new phone :-)
exadeci 9y ago
Eh https://hackerfall.com/story/the-truth-about-purism-why-librem-is-not-the-same https://hackerfall.com/story/the-truth-about-purism-why-libr... http://www.pcworld.com/article/2960524/laptop-computers/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-over-purisms-sleek-idealistic-librem-laptops.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/2960524/laptop-computers/why-...

Another truly open alternative in crowdfunding stage (I really wish it will reach its funding goal): https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/ https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

nerdponx 9y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15090156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15090156

tom_mellior 9y ago

Wow. On the one hand, this is really cool. On the other hand, it's 600 USD for a phone that might be delivered in a year and a half and will not be able to run Signal.

flashdance 9y ago
It will run debian though, which is way cooler! Plus, you might just be able to use anbox to run signal anyways. https://anbox.io/ https://anbox.io/
subway 9y ago
Not running Signal seems like a security feature to me. The official Signal servers, and their stance on requiring a phone number and forbidding 3rd party clients is absurd.
- aidenn0 9y ago
  What's the alternative? iOS has a poor story for jabber support, and the network effects for jabber are poor; the gradual network onboarding of signal made it easy to capture new users, but made it federation hostile.
  - subway 9y ago
    At the moment, I think Matrix is a solid contender. It's easy enough to use a public servers like matrix.org, or riot.im, or run your own. It's far from a perfect solution, but I feel like it comes closer to the mark than Signal.
walterbell 9y ago
The GPD Pocket is shipping for 500 USD, https://liliputing.com/2017/06/gpd-pocket-7-inch-windows-laptop-is-now-available-for-500-no-crowdfunding-required.html https://liliputing.com/2017/06/gpd-pocket-7-inch-windows-lap... https://www.reddit.com/r/GPDPocket/comments/6idnia/linux_on_gpd_pocket/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GPDPocket/comments/6idnia/linux_on_...
- tom_mellior 9y ago
  As far as I can tell, that doesn't have a SIM card slot, so it's not quite comparable to a mobile phone. I don't care that much about making calls, but mobile Internet access does matter in discussions about smartphones.
  - Pwntastic 9y ago
    I have one. You're correct; it does not have a sim slot.
tom_mellior 9y ago
> 600 USD Oh, nevermind, they take Bitcoin, which means other people paid for my new phone :-)

exadeci 9y ago

Eh https://hackerfall.com/story/the-truth-about-purism-why-librem-is-not-the-same https://hackerfall.com/story/the-truth-about-purism-why-libr... http://www.pcworld.com/article/2960524/laptop-computers/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-over-purisms-sleek-idealistic-librem-laptops.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/2960524/laptop-computers/why-...