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Do you really think eliminating standardised tests would improve the education system?
by cgmg 9y ago
Do you really think eliminating standardised tests would improve the education system?
- wavefunction 9y agoSchool-funding and even whether a school closes or not is tied to these tests, so there would be some work involved in replacing that aspect of standardized testing in US schools as well.
- KGIII 9y agoThere's an excluded middle, in that statement. De-emphasizing the importance may be an option.
- cgmg 9y agoFair point. Let me rephrase the question: Do you really think reducing standardised tests would improve the education system? If so, what objective evidence can you provide for this belief?
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- closeparen 9y agoIf you measure it less, you'll have a weaker argument for how the education system is doing! Your comment is precisely the problem: objective metrics will always support their proponents' arguments for more measurement, while any upsides to a lessened objective grading will be difficult to show because they'll involve subjective assessment or less assessment. Do not confuse the investigator's convenience in accessing a truth value for the truth value itself.
- andrewem 9y agoThat argument has been made many times and in great detail. See for instance the work of Diane Ravitch, former US Assistant Secretary of Education (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Ravitch https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Ravitch) Edit: she was Assistant Secretary, not Secretary
- valuearb 9y agoI'd be far more okay with standardized tests if the requirement also banned homework until at least Junior High. Otherwise it's a race to the bottom to see which schools can suck up as much of the children's and families home time to help improve the schools scores.
- cgmg 9y agoHow would you propose that students practice learning and studying on their own, outside of a classroom setting, without homework?
- valuearb 9y agoI don't propose that children do any of that. That's what high school is for, and 4 years of "practice" is more than enough.
- quicklyfrozen 9y agoSome of the reason schools start homework so early is that parents demand it. I've seen parents complain that a first grade class isn't academic enough because the teacher didn't assign enough homework.
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