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That checks out. Also, I think a lot of "western" stories have this structure too, namely: jokes. Many good jokes are conflict-less stories, that create a cont
by jpttsn 9y ago
That checks out. Also, I think a lot of "western" stories have this structure too, namely: jokes.
Many good jokes are conflict-less stories, that create a contradiction for the reader to resolve with a double take.
- labster 9y agoJokes are primarily about conflict between expectations and reality.
- evincarofautumn 9y agoDepends on the type of joke. For setup/punchline and wordplay-type jokes, I think “contrast” is more apt. The punchline is a resolution, sure, but not usually in the sense of a conflict—it’s dispelling confusion by connecting the parts that have been presented, or inviting the audience to connect them to have that “Oh, I get it!” moment. That seems basically like kishoutenketsu. To me, humour based on conflict, even between expectation and reality, falls more into the category of irony, mocking, or slapstick, where someone (or something) is the “butt of the joke”.
- healthdavid 9y agoIs there such a thing as a joke that doesn't have a "butt", though? It's obvious in mocking and slapstick but even in wordplay the joke is at the expense of the structure and rules of language and implicitly the people who try to police it.
- kobeya 9y agoI'm not laughing at language police when I think a particularly clever pun is funny.
- labster 9y agoThere are lots of jokes about computers, and, the last time I checked, computers don't have butts.
- shuntress 9y agoWhy do SCUBA divers drop backwards to get into the water? If they dropped forwards, they would land in the boat.