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I don't think the article was that bad for "junior-JS-to-JS-dev talk", which I think is clearly the main audience. Yes, I'd agree, for any seasoned dev, an arti

by fnl 9y ago

I don't think the article was that bad for "junior-JS-to-JS-dev talk", which I think is clearly the main audience. Yes, I'd agree, for any seasoned dev, an article about the basics of functional programming, state machines, and the basics of unit testing and API design is a tad boring ;-). But that's no reason to get that upset about an article that clearly wasn't written for such an audience. Rather, such a response is not exactly encouraging those "kids" to learn complex programming concepts/languages in the first place, I think, and instead seems a bit offensive, to be honest.

jnbiche 9y ago
> such a response is not exactly encouraging those "kids" to learn complex programming concepts/languages in the first place, I think, and instead seems a bit offensive, to be honest. Yes, exactly. I mean, this dev is someone who clearly is working toward a deeper level of understanding of CS concepts, and here some people seem to be criticizing him for that. It's frustrating.
- MrBingley 9y ago
  Ah, but you forget, then we can't browbeat the JavaScript-kiddies with our own seasoned superiority. (adjusts monocle)
  - fnl 9y ago
    Hmm; I guess that means a solution would be to personalize HN rankings on the similarity of voters' earlier votes on other articles with your own voting behavior (as a proxy for article preference...) :-)
- zbtaylor1 9y ago
  > It's frustrating. It really is. This "community" can be very unwelcoming. I'll never understand what motivates people to shit all over content they consider below them. Is it really that hard to pass by without shouting "I'm smarter than you!" at everyone?
  - DarkTree 9y ago
    > I'll never understand what motivates people to shit all over content they consider below them. Almost always rooted in the person's own insecurities
    - carapace 9y ago
      Some of us are just tired of people who don't respect the people and work that came before them. There was a guy at the second-to-last place I worked who didn't know who Alan Kay was! What's worse, he wasn't ashamed of his ignorance. At the last place I worked someone was refurbishing an old "expert system" written in CLIPS [1], he asked my advice and I said, "Consider using Prolog." He said, "What's Prolog?" These are guys getting paid six figures and they do not care to educate themselves on the background of their chosen field. It's lame. Could you imagine a physicist who didn't know who Newton was? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLIPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLIPS

by fnl 9y ago

jnbiche 9y ago

> such a response is not exactly encouraging those "kids" to learn complex programming concepts/languages in the first place, I think, and instead seems a bit offensive, to be honest. Yes, exactly. I mean, this dev is someone who clearly is working toward a deeper level of understanding of CS concepts, and here some people seem to be criticizing him for that. It's frustrating.

MrBingley 9y ago
Ah, but you forget, then we can't browbeat the JavaScript-kiddies with our own seasoned superiority. (adjusts monocle)
- fnl 9y ago
  Hmm; I guess that means a solution would be to personalize HN rankings on the similarity of voters' earlier votes on other articles with your own voting behavior (as a proxy for article preference...) :-)
zbtaylor1 9y ago
> It's frustrating. It really is. This "community" can be very unwelcoming. I'll never understand what motivates people to shit all over content they consider below them. Is it really that hard to pass by without shouting "I'm smarter than you!" at everyone?
- DarkTree 9y ago
  > I'll never understand what motivates people to shit all over content they consider below them. Almost always rooted in the person's own insecurities
  - carapace 9y ago
    Some of us are just tired of people who don't respect the people and work that came before them. There was a guy at the second-to-last place I worked who didn't know who Alan Kay was! What's worse, he wasn't ashamed of his ignorance. At the last place I worked someone was refurbishing an old "expert system" written in CLIPS [1], he asked my advice and I said, "Consider using Prolog." He said, "What's Prolog?" These are guys getting paid six figures and they do not care to educate themselves on the background of their chosen field. It's lame. Could you imagine a physicist who didn't know who Newton was? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLIPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLIPS