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>>> China forbids anonymous online posts Clickbait title. The article doesn't even say that.

Illniyar 9y ago
It's right there in the title
beefsack 9y ago
The title doesn't seem entirely dissimilar: > China doubles down on real-name registration laws, forbidding anonymous online posts
- user5994461 9y ago
  It's not in the content.
  - Retric 9y ago
    Direct quote: "According to the new regulations, Internet companies and service providers are responsible for requesting and verifying real names from users when they register and must immediately report illegal content to the authorities."
    - SquareWheel 9y ago
      That would mean that they must use real names when signing up with an ISP, no? The title implied that they must also use real names when registering to a website. "anonymous online posts"
      - deleted 9y ago
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      - Retric 9y ago
        It's 'Internet companies and service providers' service providers = ISP, Internet companies = Facebook "the country’s top Internet censor announced a new set of regulations (link via Google Translate) meant to eliminate posts by anonymous users on Internet forums and other platforms." Just click on the link for a reasonable translation of the rule.
    - deleted 9y ago
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  - gyosko 9y ago
    > Last Friday, the country’s top Internet censor announced a new set of regulations (link via Google Translate) meant to eliminate posts by anonymous users on Internet forums and other platforms.
  - thesanerguy 9y ago
    I had to cut down the title because of 80 characters limit (tried using the full title but got an error), so chose this phrase from the headline. Sorry if it felt like a click-bait. Also, the post is all about how China is eliminating posts by anonymous users on Internet. Not sure what you mean by "its not in the content"?
    - user5994461 9y ago
      No, the post is about people having to use real names to register to an ISP. First, It's not new. Second, it's the same things in the USA and EU since as long as there were ISP. There is really nothing about forbidding anonymous posts on the internet.
      - nl 9y ago
        The TC article misses it. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15115808 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15115808
nl 9y ago
The TechCrunch article doesn't say that, and the link to the translated article didn't work for me. BUT, if you translate the regulation itself (http://www.cac.gov.cn/2017-08/25/c_1121541921.htm http://www.cac.gov.cn/2017-08/25/c_1121541921.htm) it does appear that it outlaws forum posts by anonymous users: These Provisions shall apply to the Internet forums within the territory of the People 's Republic of China. The term "Internet forum community service" as mentioned in these Provisions refers to the provision of interactive information publishing community platform in the form of forums, postings, communities and so on. then Article 8 Internet forum community service providers shall, in accordance with the principle of "backstage real name and front desk voluntarily", require the user to register the account through the authentication of the authenticity information and carry out the verification of the true identity information of the sponsor and the manager. Users do not provide real identity information, Internet forum community service providers shall not provide information dissemination services. So yes, this does seem to require real name verification for forums. (Also, Google Translate is a miracle of the age)

It's right there in the title

The title doesn't seem entirely dissimilar: > China doubles down on real-name registration laws, forbidding anonymous online posts

user5994461 9y ago
It's not in the content.
- Retric 9y ago
  Direct quote: "According to the new regulations, Internet companies and service providers are responsible for requesting and verifying real names from users when they register and must immediately report illegal content to the authorities."
  - SquareWheel 9y ago
    That would mean that they must use real names when signing up with an ISP, no? The title implied that they must also use real names when registering to a website. "anonymous online posts"
    - deleted 9y ago
      [deleted]
    - Retric 9y ago
      It's 'Internet companies and service providers' service providers = ISP, Internet companies = Facebook "the country’s top Internet censor announced a new set of regulations (link via Google Translate) meant to eliminate posts by anonymous users on Internet forums and other platforms." Just click on the link for a reasonable translation of the rule.
  - deleted 9y ago
    [deleted]
- gyosko 9y ago
  > Last Friday, the country’s top Internet censor announced a new set of regulations (link via Google Translate) meant to eliminate posts by anonymous users on Internet forums and other platforms.
- thesanerguy 9y ago
  I had to cut down the title because of 80 characters limit (tried using the full title but got an error), so chose this phrase from the headline. Sorry if it felt like a click-bait. Also, the post is all about how China is eliminating posts by anonymous users on Internet. Not sure what you mean by "its not in the content"?
  - user5994461 9y ago
    No, the post is about people having to use real names to register to an ISP. First, It's not new. Second, it's the same things in the USA and EU since as long as there were ISP. There is really nothing about forbidding anonymous posts on the internet.
    - nl 9y ago
      The TC article misses it. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15115808 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15115808

nl 9y ago

The TechCrunch article doesn't say that, and the link to the translated article didn't work for me. BUT, if you translate the regulation itself (http://www.cac.gov.cn/2017-08/25/c_1121541921.htm http://www.cac.gov.cn/2017-08/25/c_1121541921.htm) it does appear that it outlaws forum posts by anonymous users: These Provisions shall apply to the Internet forums within the territory of the People 's Republic of China. The term "Internet forum community service" as mentioned in these Provisions refers to the provision of interactive information publishing community platform in the form of forums, postings, communities and so on. then Article 8 Internet forum community service providers shall, in accordance with the principle of "backstage real name and front desk voluntarily", require the user to register the account through the authentication of the authenticity information and carry out the verification of the true identity information of the sponsor and the manager. Users do not provide real identity information, Internet forum community service providers shall not provide information dissemination services. So yes, this does seem to require real name verification for forums. (Also, Google Translate is a miracle of the age)