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How many would die of other causes, such as .. car crashes.

by sundvor 9y ago

Spooky23 9y ago
Probably a much smaller numbers. Cars are engineered to protect all but the most reckless and negligent from death.
- Zigurd 9y ago
  Inside the car. Globally about half of road deaths are outside the vehicle.
emodendroket 9y ago
Out of any given pool of 1000 people? Probably not as many.
- Piskvorrr 9y ago
  And out of a pool of similar 1000 people? I seem to recall that affluent young men used to kill themselves in sports-car racing in the preceding decades. Perhaps this is a confounding factor: as Spooky23 notes in a sibling comment, "Cars are engineered to protect all but the most reckless and negligent from death" - but indeed, who else would choose BASE but the reckless and the self-proclaimed immortals?
  - emodendroket 9y ago
    If we're talking about car racing, rather than just driving a car, yes, I agree it is pretty dangerous. Probably still not as dangerous as trying to navigate canyons in a wing suit.
sundvor 9y ago
I guess my point was to try to see through the attractive headlines, to compare base number deaths to a baseline. Looking at http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/129_death_and_death_rates_by_age.html http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/129_death_and_death_rat... For the age group 25-44 we have 269.8 male deaths per 100k, vs 114.8 female ones - or a total of 192.0 per 100k regardless of gender, or nearly ~2 per 1000. Looking at http://base-jumping.eu/base-jumping-fatality-list/ http://base-jumping.eu/base-jumping-fatality-list/ , which might be a bit dated, I see 26 fatalities listed for 2015 world wide. I tried to find how many base jumpers exist, and ended up on a forum where it was speculated upon. Perhaps 3000? In which case we have a mortality of ~9 per thousand , no age group discrimination. So.. from that perhaps naive collection I see a 4-5x increased risk of dying if being a base jumper compared to just being average. However one can ponder if it would help fight depression and such. And, looking at death rates for 45+ , cancer then becoming a major killer with obesity certainly being a factor. How many lives does the fitness regime of base jumping save?

How many would die of other causes, such as .. car crashes.

Spooky23 9y ago

Probably a much smaller numbers. Cars are engineered to protect all but the most reckless and negligent from death.

Zigurd 9y ago
Inside the car. Globally about half of road deaths are outside the vehicle.

emodendroket 9y ago

Out of any given pool of 1000 people? Probably not as many.

Piskvorrr 9y ago
And out of a pool of similar 1000 people? I seem to recall that affluent young men used to kill themselves in sports-car racing in the preceding decades. Perhaps this is a confounding factor: as Spooky23 notes in a sibling comment, "Cars are engineered to protect all but the most reckless and negligent from death" - but indeed, who else would choose BASE but the reckless and the self-proclaimed immortals?
- emodendroket 9y ago
  If we're talking about car racing, rather than just driving a car, yes, I agree it is pretty dangerous. Probably still not as dangerous as trying to navigate canyons in a wing suit.

sundvor 9y ago

I guess my point was to try to see through the attractive headlines, to compare base number deaths to a baseline. Looking at http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/129_death_and_death_rates_by_age.html http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/129_death_and_death_rat... For the age group 25-44 we have 269.8 male deaths per 100k, vs 114.8 female ones - or a total of 192.0 per 100k regardless of gender, or nearly ~2 per 1000. Looking at http://base-jumping.eu/base-jumping-fatality-list/ http://base-jumping.eu/base-jumping-fatality-list/ , which might be a bit dated, I see 26 fatalities listed for 2015 world wide. I tried to find how many base jumpers exist, and ended up on a forum where it was speculated upon. Perhaps 3000? In which case we have a mortality of ~9 per thousand , no age group discrimination. So.. from that perhaps naive collection I see a 4-5x increased risk of dying if being a base jumper compared to just being average. However one can ponder if it would help fight depression and such. And, looking at death rates for 45+ , cancer then becoming a major killer with obesity certainly being a factor. How many lives does the fitness regime of base jumping save?