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I would be pretty surprised. Not everyone in the UK has ID, and since the NIC scheme failure, it's less likely than ever to happen. ID isn't even required to vo

I would be pretty surprised. Not everyone in the UK has ID, and since the NIC scheme failure, it's less likely than ever to happen. ID isn't even required to vote at the moment...

Freak_NL 9y ago
That is a minor oversight that will probably be rectified at some point — other countries are doing it, it is already required in Northern Ireland, and in 2018 a pilot will be held introducing the requirement in a number of districts¹. People likely won't resist it too much. We've had this identification requirement imposed upon us in the Netherlands a few years ago, and while there is valid criticism on this requirement, it passed. So to vote now you need to bring a valid ID. If the British government wants to do this with a minimum of fuss, they'll do what our government did and make the driver's licence a valid identity card. That way the majority of adults will already have their ID on them as a matter of habit (and won't complain). Of course mentioning that it is needed to prevent Muslim voters from committing voting fraud (see¹…) will help push the bill trough. 1: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/27/voters-will-have-show-passports-combat-voter-fraud-vulnerable/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/27/voters-will-have-...
- jawbone3 9y ago
  What is the objection to keeping track of who voted?
  - PoachedSausage 9y ago
    Its supposed to be a secret ballot. Of course, most people tell their friends which way they voted, but that's their choice.
    - jawbone3 9y ago
      You mean you count not showing up to vote as an active vote choice that should be protected by secrecy? Because the secrecy of the physical votes is produced by the mixing of large numbers of indistinguishable containers prior to reading, not by the votes being handed in by strangers.
- achamayou 9y ago
  It has been tried, and on the whole, it wasn't a success at all: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_Cards_Act_2006 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_Cards_Act_2006 Only an extraordinarily confident and popular government would have another go (and it's not what the UK has now). As for the voting scheme you describe, it's entirely voluntary, for 2018, and no council has signed up yet. Things may move in that direction slowly, but to suggest that the UK is particularly close to requiring ID for internet accounts is downright silly I'm afraid.

I would be pretty surprised. Not everyone in the UK has ID, and since the NIC scheme failure, it's less likely than ever to happen. ID isn't even required to vote at the moment...

Freak_NL 9y ago

That is a minor oversight that will probably be rectified at some point — other countries are doing it, it is already required in Northern Ireland, and in 2018 a pilot will be held introducing the requirement in a number of districts¹. People likely won't resist it too much. We've had this identification requirement imposed upon us in the Netherlands a few years ago, and while there is valid criticism on this requirement, it passed. So to vote now you need to bring a valid ID. If the British government wants to do this with a minimum of fuss, they'll do what our government did and make the driver's licence a valid identity card. That way the majority of adults will already have their ID on them as a matter of habit (and won't complain). Of course mentioning that it is needed to prevent Muslim voters from committing voting fraud (see¹…) will help push the bill trough. 1: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/27/voters-will-have-show-passports-combat-voter-fraud-vulnerable/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/27/voters-will-have-...

jawbone3 9y ago
What is the objection to keeping track of who voted?
- PoachedSausage 9y ago
  Its supposed to be a secret ballot. Of course, most people tell their friends which way they voted, but that's their choice.
  - jawbone3 9y ago
    You mean you count not showing up to vote as an active vote choice that should be protected by secrecy? Because the secrecy of the physical votes is produced by the mixing of large numbers of indistinguishable containers prior to reading, not by the votes being handed in by strangers.
achamayou 9y ago
It has been tried, and on the whole, it wasn't a success at all: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_Cards_Act_2006 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_Cards_Act_2006 Only an extraordinarily confident and popular government would have another go (and it's not what the UK has now). As for the voting scheme you describe, it's entirely voluntary, for 2018, and no council has signed up yet. Things may move in that direction slowly, but to suggest that the UK is particularly close to requiring ID for internet accounts is downright silly I'm afraid.