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I dislike advertising too and would gladly see it and the related industry burn in a fire but it's neither immoral or a terrible business model. Many business

by zdkl 9y ago

I dislike advertising too and would gladly see it and the related industry burn in a fire but it's neither immoral or a terrible business model. Many business benefit greatly from some amount of advertisement and it's a practical way to monetise people's attention. What is immoral is the cohort of brilliant minds who've made the optimisation of advertisement the quest of the century.

LukaD 9y ago
So there is nothing wrong with involuntary invasion of other people's minds?
- convery 9y ago
  I love how you people always find new ways of wording shit to gain some moral superiority. Can't wait for the logical conclusion, "Netflix's servers are heating up the planet while processing my request; I DO NOT CONSENT TO THIS!! Thus my piracy is for the good of the land".
  - icebraining 9y ago
    If sites warned that they will load trackers beforehand, your accusation would make sense: people could just not enter the site. But as it stands, even if you're willing to forgo using such sites, you have to load trackers to know that the site uses them. So an adblocker/anti-tracker is a necessary protection.
  - LukaD 9y ago
    You got me. Gaining moral superiority is what I was after.
  - yew 9y ago
    The only thing you'll achieve with that attitude is convincing people that there's no point in slowing down or talking things over.
  - wott 9y ago
    > wording shit The head of the first French TV channel himself bragged that "his job was to sell available brain time".
- zdkl 9y ago
  Well so far I've lived fairly well, being "involuntarily invaded" by art for instance, so I'm not sure I see merit in the invasion argument. On the the other hand if you're complaining about the shady manipulations going on behind the scenes to fuel the data driven marketing and advertising schemes then sure you have a point.
- wyager 9y ago
  You consent to go to the website that has ads on it. On the other hand, you don't consent to seeing a billboard whilst on public roads, so I don't think I'd object to people "defending themselves" (whatever that looks like) from billboards.
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by zdkl 9y ago

LukaD 9y ago

So there is nothing wrong with involuntary invasion of other people's minds?

convery 9y ago
I love how you people always find new ways of wording shit to gain some moral superiority. Can't wait for the logical conclusion, "Netflix's servers are heating up the planet while processing my request; I DO NOT CONSENT TO THIS!! Thus my piracy is for the good of the land".
- icebraining 9y ago
  If sites warned that they will load trackers beforehand, your accusation would make sense: people could just not enter the site. But as it stands, even if you're willing to forgo using such sites, you have to load trackers to know that the site uses them. So an adblocker/anti-tracker is a necessary protection.
- LukaD 9y ago
  You got me. Gaining moral superiority is what I was after.
- yew 9y ago
  The only thing you'll achieve with that attitude is convincing people that there's no point in slowing down or talking things over.
- wott 9y ago
  > wording shit The head of the first French TV channel himself bragged that "his job was to sell available brain time".
zdkl 9y ago
Well so far I've lived fairly well, being "involuntarily invaded" by art for instance, so I'm not sure I see merit in the invasion argument. On the the other hand if you're complaining about the shady manipulations going on behind the scenes to fuel the data driven marketing and advertising schemes then sure you have a point.
wyager 9y ago
You consent to go to the website that has ads on it. On the other hand, you don't consent to seeing a billboard whilst on public roads, so I don't think I'd object to people "defending themselves" (whatever that looks like) from billboards.
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