18 ms·

Tesla‘s are literally killer machines. Accessing the high voltage cables is not difficult (they are only covered by a plastic cover which is easily removable).

Tesla‘s are literally killer machines. Accessing the high voltage cables is not difficult (they are only covered by a plastic cover which is easily removable). Those power lines can easily kill you. Even if you are very careful, even a small mistake with the wiring can have fatal consequences. There is a reason why you are not allowed to do wiring and a lot of electronics in your house by yourself. I certainly hope that Tesla will provide manuals to highly trained electricians at some point, but if Jone Doe tries to fix his electric vehicle by himself and makes a fatal mistake (or maybe even starts a fire), that will only make national news and scare more people into thinking electric vehicles are inherently more dangerous then traditional cars (which they are not). I can understand why Tesla does not want to take that risk.

KGIII 9y ago
They may also want to click this link: https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you
serf 9y ago
>Tesla‘s are literally killer machines. So are all cars. Under-skilled people routinely (and legally) repair and maintain the systems that make these vehicles drivable (brakes, steering, suspension, etc). Some folks are killed in doing so, much like any activity, but not any number that is out of proportion and typical with any activity where small mistakes can cost lives. >There is a reason why you are not allowed to do wiring and a lot of electronics in your house by yourself. That's not true in many places, much of the United States included. Only inspection is mandatory in most cases, barring specific regional laws. Again : Those that do their own work aren't just dropping like flies. A few accidents occur, but nothing of any proportion to require legislating more strict laws regarding such things. >I can understand why Tesla does not want to take that risk. My understanding of why Tesla acts the way they do has nothing to do with the complexity in their systems and danger in working around such complexity, but rather their interest in more protection for their IP, their desire for keeping customers within their own 'walled garden' of service options, and for controlling public perception of their product, all to the disservice of the customer (much like John Deere's behavior these past decade or two). We aren't strangers to 'killer machines'. This isn't any new phenomenon. It's being framed that way by some to rationalize over-protective and controlling corporate behavior towards the consumer, and Tesla isn't alone in exercising such power.
- EADGBE 9y ago
  > There is a reason why you are not allowed to do wiring and a lot of electronics in your house by yourself. I've found that a few people here really don't understand some industries; yet are adamant about their opinions on said industries. A few weeks back I was just in an argument with someone (may have been another account, though) about high-voltage lines in the US used for dryers, and how "magically converting a 120V line" (paraphrasing) to 240V was just super dangerous and a death sentence. Point is, arguer had no knowledge of two phased 120V lines in US electricity and combining the two was sure to burn a house down. But they sure did have an argument. FWIW, this form is so much more argumentative than others online about other topics not understood. I think that's part of the IT/techy/hacker culture.
korzun 9y ago
I can tell by your post that you never did any sort of meaningful repair on a car. Yet, for some reason, you seem super concerned about what other people might do. Is there a term for this kind of bizzare nanny behaviour? Why pretend that you know what you are talking about and then take a step further and not only suggest ridiculous 'solutions' but push for regulations.
- EADGBE 9y ago
  > I can tell by your post that you never did any sort of meaningful repair on a car. Or their house. Especially with blanket statements that prohibit "working on" your own home.

KGIII 9y ago

They may also want to click this link: https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you

serf 9y ago

>Tesla‘s are literally killer machines. So are all cars. Under-skilled people routinely (and legally) repair and maintain the systems that make these vehicles drivable (brakes, steering, suspension, etc). Some folks are killed in doing so, much like any activity, but not any number that is out of proportion and typical with any activity where small mistakes can cost lives. >There is a reason why you are not allowed to do wiring and a lot of electronics in your house by yourself. That's not true in many places, much of the United States included. Only inspection is mandatory in most cases, barring specific regional laws. Again : Those that do their own work aren't just dropping like flies. A few accidents occur, but nothing of any proportion to require legislating more strict laws regarding such things. >I can understand why Tesla does not want to take that risk. My understanding of why Tesla acts the way they do has nothing to do with the complexity in their systems and danger in working around such complexity, but rather their interest in more protection for their IP, their desire for keeping customers within their own 'walled garden' of service options, and for controlling public perception of their product, all to the disservice of the customer (much like John Deere's behavior these past decade or two). We aren't strangers to 'killer machines'. This isn't any new phenomenon. It's being framed that way by some to rationalize over-protective and controlling corporate behavior towards the consumer, and Tesla isn't alone in exercising such power.

EADGBE 9y ago
> There is a reason why you are not allowed to do wiring and a lot of electronics in your house by yourself. I've found that a few people here really don't understand some industries; yet are adamant about their opinions on said industries. A few weeks back I was just in an argument with someone (may have been another account, though) about high-voltage lines in the US used for dryers, and how "magically converting a 120V line" (paraphrasing) to 240V was just super dangerous and a death sentence. Point is, arguer had no knowledge of two phased 120V lines in US electricity and combining the two was sure to burn a house down. But they sure did have an argument. FWIW, this form is so much more argumentative than others online about other topics not understood. I think that's part of the IT/techy/hacker culture.

korzun 9y ago

I can tell by your post that you never did any sort of meaningful repair on a car. Yet, for some reason, you seem super concerned about what other people might do. Is there a term for this kind of bizzare nanny behaviour? Why pretend that you know what you are talking about and then take a step further and not only suggest ridiculous 'solutions' but push for regulations.

EADGBE 9y ago
> I can tell by your post that you never did any sort of meaningful repair on a car. Or their house. Especially with blanket statements that prohibit "working on" your own home.