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I've lurked a while and seen people give all the js is shit js fatigue blah blah and again we have this on this. question I've got to ask to people posing this

I've lurked a while and seen people give all the js is shit js fatigue blah blah and again we have this on this. question I've got to ask to people posing this question is are you not adaptable enough as a programmer to learn things fast?...I was a c# programmer and in 1 month it was like yeah no problem I understand the new tools. in fact the new frameworks taught me a lot about functional programming which was fantastic. You can winge all you want but it's here. It's not going away due to corp IE9 and to be honest it annoys me because the js ecosystem as well is the nearest to open source ideals at the moment as a lot of people are sharing code. I can fix any bug in my dependency because I can read the source. Yeah maybe some packages are useless. but tbh they're the ones that will sink to the floor but the good ideas are passed about like a zep cd. js is the first meme language (in the Dawkins sense) and it's extremely interesting to see it develop in the public eye

adpoe 9y ago
Just an opinion: It's not that it's hard to learn this stuff. More so, it's tiresome and hard to care after watching the JS community re-inventing the same wheel(s), repeatedly. Personally, I'd rather see the JS community solve a wider variety of problems.. instead of the same ones, over and over. The amount of talent focused on building JS tools really is incredible. But it seems like the tools that generate the most hype always do the _same_ things, just in a shinier newer package. Which is frustrating. I wasn't around at the time, but reading about programming languages past -- it seems like these are the same kinds of problems that fractured Lisp, back in the day. The problem is this: It's fun, exciting, and relatively simple to roll your own X. So everyone does it. That's good. But too much fractures the community, instead of uniting it. Which.. may be more harmful than helpful, in the long-run. Time will tell. But the strongest & most productive communities typically converge on 'best-practices', once a problem is solved well enough. JS doesn't seem to do that. (At least not yet.)

adpoe 9y ago

Just an opinion: It's not that it's hard to learn this stuff. More so, it's tiresome and hard to care after watching the JS community re-inventing the same wheel(s), repeatedly. Personally, I'd rather see the JS community solve a wider variety of problems.. instead of the same ones, over and over. The amount of talent focused on building JS tools really is incredible. But it seems like the tools that generate the most hype always do the _same_ things, just in a shinier newer package. Which is frustrating. I wasn't around at the time, but reading about programming languages past -- it seems like these are the same kinds of problems that fractured Lisp, back in the day. The problem is this: It's fun, exciting, and relatively simple to roll your own X. So everyone does it. That's good. But too much fractures the community, instead of uniting it. Which.. may be more harmful than helpful, in the long-run. Time will tell. But the strongest & most productive communities typically converge on 'best-practices', once a problem is solved well enough. JS doesn't seem to do that. (At least not yet.)