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Then you might as well stop using your smartphone and all 3rd party apps on it. ...Is probably the right answer. Unfortunately, if you want a phone that actua

Then you might as well stop using your smartphone and all 3rd party apps on it. ...Is probably the right answer. Unfortunately, if you want a phone that actually works these days, you're basically stuck with iOS or Android devices, and all the junk that implies. If I could buy a modern dumbphone that just works as a phone, with decent components so it has good reception and reliability, and ignore the whole smartphone fiasco altogether, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

AndrewCHM 9y ago
You can buy a phone like that, they are usually advertised for rural use edit: or you can make one http://zerophone.org/ http://zerophone.org/ which also has plans to crowdfund some pre-built phones
- Silhouette 9y ago
  I'd love to, but as someone who has spent a lot of time looking recently, it's certainly not easy to find anything suitable here in the UK. You can get dumbphones, but getting a good dumbphone, with reliable reception and decent battery life, is a different question altogether. If you want anything at all beyond basic features, like say a dual SIM option for use when travelling, you're straight into high-end smartphone territory, even if you actually have no interest in the so-called smart parts of the device.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    My $20 Wiko Lubi has dual SIM. Never had problems with its reception or battery life, either. Audio quality, on the other hand...
  - userbinator 9y ago
    Dual (or even triple, and I've seen 4 and 5 too) SIMs is pretty much standard on phones, dumb or smart, intended for the Asia market, mostly produced by various small companies based on the standard Mediatek platform, but you can buy those online.
jacquesm 9y ago
I could put you in my will and leave my Nokia to you, I'm fairly sure it will still work by that time :)
arca_vorago 9y ago
I do cyagenomod(lineageos) with all the Google stripped out. A terminal, ssh, Firefox mobile, and a YouTube apk with ads stripped. This is why privacy respecting Foss and the four freedoms are important. Eventually people will wake up as the surveillance state becomes more abrasively obvious to even the lay-user.
- kogepathic 9y ago
  > and a YouTube apk with ads stripped Doesn't the YouTube app still rely on Google Play Services? Anyway, if you still want to watch YouTube without Google, I'd recommend NewPipe on F-Droid. [0] It's awesome. You can download videos to local storage for later watching, play music headless in the background, and there are no ads! [0] https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/ https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/
chc 9y ago
I don't know know where you live, but Nokia has released a new version of the Nokia 3310 in some places (not the USA yet, though).

AndrewCHM 9y ago

You can buy a phone like that, they are usually advertised for rural use edit: or you can make one http://zerophone.org/ http://zerophone.org/ which also has plans to crowdfund some pre-built phones

Silhouette 9y ago
I'd love to, but as someone who has spent a lot of time looking recently, it's certainly not easy to find anything suitable here in the UK. You can get dumbphones, but getting a good dumbphone, with reliable reception and decent battery life, is a different question altogether. If you want anything at all beyond basic features, like say a dual SIM option for use when travelling, you're straight into high-end smartphone territory, even if you actually have no interest in the so-called smart parts of the device.
- icebraining 9y ago
  My $20 Wiko Lubi has dual SIM. Never had problems with its reception or battery life, either. Audio quality, on the other hand...
- userbinator 9y ago
  Dual (or even triple, and I've seen 4 and 5 too) SIMs is pretty much standard on phones, dumb or smart, intended for the Asia market, mostly produced by various small companies based on the standard Mediatek platform, but you can buy those online.

jacquesm 9y ago

I could put you in my will and leave my Nokia to you, I'm fairly sure it will still work by that time :)

arca_vorago 9y ago

I do cyagenomod(lineageos) with all the Google stripped out. A terminal, ssh, Firefox mobile, and a YouTube apk with ads stripped. This is why privacy respecting Foss and the four freedoms are important. Eventually people will wake up as the surveillance state becomes more abrasively obvious to even the lay-user.

kogepathic 9y ago
> and a YouTube apk with ads stripped Doesn't the YouTube app still rely on Google Play Services? Anyway, if you still want to watch YouTube without Google, I'd recommend NewPipe on F-Droid. [0] It's awesome. You can download videos to local storage for later watching, play music headless in the background, and there are no ads! [0] https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/ https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

chc 9y ago

I don't know know where you live, but Nokia has released a new version of the Nokia 3310 in some places (not the USA yet, though).