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Maybe you'll have better luck with ReasonML syntax?

fasquoika 9y ago
Not the parent, but ReasonML's syntax is actually not great. They fixed a bunch of pain points with OCaml but then added their own idiosyncrasies to make it look more like JS
- yawaramin 9y ago
  They actually thought the JavaScript-like syntax through very carefully, trying to balance several factors (like JS appeal, future-proofing, simplifying, etc.). See https://www.reddit.com/r/reasonml/comments/6v2olv/new_syntax_after_pr_1299/dly4aa7/?st=j6uwyua3&sh=d68e1ffd https://www.reddit.com/r/reasonml/comments/6v2olv/new_syntax... for a quite informative summary of the changes.
weberc2 9y ago
Yeah, I came to OCaml by way of reason, and I preferred reason's syntax, but the tooling and documentation were still very unpolished. The syntax niceness didn't do enough to justify sticking with it. I really like Rust's syntax and tooling (best of any functional/ML IMHO), I just don't want to spend all my time thinking through moves and borrows and lifetimes.
- yawaramin 9y ago
  Tooling is getting better! Reason/BuckleScript recently shipped Elm/Rust-like errors: https://reasonml.github.io/community/blog/#way-way-waaaay-nicer-error-messages https://reasonml.github.io/community/blog/#way-way-waaaay-ni... Docs are more of a WIP right now, but I'm confident they'll get a handle on them: https://reasonml.github.io/api/index.html https://reasonml.github.io/api/index.html
  - weberc2 9y ago
    I'm happy to hear it. My grievances were with project tooling (and documentation therefore). It was hard to figure out how to compile a multifile project, add a dependency, etc. Some of the problem was that there was a lack of documentation about how to use the OCaml tools to build reason projects, and the other part of the problem is that OCaml project management leaves a lot to be desired. I'm very happy to see the standard library documentation is available for Reason, that alone tells me the Reason community cares about improving the experience for new developers (which is not the impression I get from the OCaml community).

Not the parent, but ReasonML's syntax is actually not great. They fixed a bunch of pain points with OCaml but then added their own idiosyncrasies to make it look more like JS

yawaramin 9y ago
They actually thought the JavaScript-like syntax through very carefully, trying to balance several factors (like JS appeal, future-proofing, simplifying, etc.). See https://www.reddit.com/r/reasonml/comments/6v2olv/new_syntax_after_pr_1299/dly4aa7/?st=j6uwyua3&sh=d68e1ffd https://www.reddit.com/r/reasonml/comments/6v2olv/new_syntax... for a quite informative summary of the changes.

weberc2 9y ago

Yeah, I came to OCaml by way of reason, and I preferred reason's syntax, but the tooling and documentation were still very unpolished. The syntax niceness didn't do enough to justify sticking with it. I really like Rust's syntax and tooling (best of any functional/ML IMHO), I just don't want to spend all my time thinking through moves and borrows and lifetimes.

yawaramin 9y ago
Tooling is getting better! Reason/BuckleScript recently shipped Elm/Rust-like errors: https://reasonml.github.io/community/blog/#way-way-waaaay-nicer-error-messages https://reasonml.github.io/community/blog/#way-way-waaaay-ni... Docs are more of a WIP right now, but I'm confident they'll get a handle on them: https://reasonml.github.io/api/index.html https://reasonml.github.io/api/index.html
- weberc2 9y ago
  I'm happy to hear it. My grievances were with project tooling (and documentation therefore). It was hard to figure out how to compile a multifile project, add a dependency, etc. Some of the problem was that there was a lack of documentation about how to use the OCaml tools to build reason projects, and the other part of the problem is that OCaml project management leaves a lot to be desired. I'm very happy to see the standard library documentation is available for Reason, that alone tells me the Reason community cares about improving the experience for new developers (which is not the impression I get from the OCaml community).