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>Fire is an everyone problem. That's not even remotely true. This is another one of those weird HN tunnel visions. http://lakedillonfirerescue.org/wp-content/

>Fire is an everyone problem. That's not even remotely true. This is another one of those weird HN tunnel visions. http://lakedillonfirerescue.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/wildfire-risk-potential.bmp http://lakedillonfirerescue.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/w...

protomyth 9y ago
Last I checked, everybody's data center or building can catch fire or have a fire inside. I would love to see the building that has computer equipment in it that cannot catch on fire. You are one bad UPS / power supply away from a rack fire. Never mind the electrical panel itself.
- ghaff 9y ago
  The context was natural disasters though--so pretty much wildfires.
  - protomyth 9y ago
    And every place even those listed on the map can get them unless you build your data center on some terrain with absolutely no plan life around. You need to deal with fire outbreaks even if you are not on the map.
    - jacquesm 9y ago
      And even then there is lightning induced fire. Plenty of natural fires start that way and there is no reason why your building can't be the starting point of one. Though fortunately most DCs take lightning protection quite serious and are probably amongst the harder buildings to ignite.
      - sqeaky 9y ago
        Lightning Rods can prevent this.
        protomyth 9y ago
        As I found out (not data center related) if the old barn / building down the road doesn’t have one, the fire can come a calling mighty quickly. On a data center note, I have noticed a couple of data centers hooked to dams with farms as their neighboring land. I guess hydro is pretty reliable.
FireBeyond 9y ago
It's not your problem until it is. I live in a "green" area, nice low threat. I'm also a volunteer firefighter. Last week I was at a brush fire in a semi urban area that got so bad so quickly that it prompted three choppers and the first time in this half of the state that a DC10 VLAT (very large aerial tanker) dropping retardant was deployed due to the threat to multiple residential and commercial structures, several of which were still lost. In the lowest threat classification area.
- jschwartzi 9y ago
  I remember the first time I saw a fire start from a discarded cigarette. The sight was awesome to behold, especially as it burned uphill on one side of a freeway. It's why I'm extremely paranoid about dousing anything that was once on fire. All it takes to start a fire is an idiot and a cigarette.

protomyth 9y ago

Last I checked, everybody's data center or building can catch fire or have a fire inside. I would love to see the building that has computer equipment in it that cannot catch on fire. You are one bad UPS / power supply away from a rack fire. Never mind the electrical panel itself.

ghaff 9y ago
The context was natural disasters though--so pretty much wildfires.
- protomyth 9y ago
  And every place even those listed on the map can get them unless you build your data center on some terrain with absolutely no plan life around. You need to deal with fire outbreaks even if you are not on the map.
  - jacquesm 9y ago
    And even then there is lightning induced fire. Plenty of natural fires start that way and there is no reason why your building can't be the starting point of one. Though fortunately most DCs take lightning protection quite serious and are probably amongst the harder buildings to ignite.
    - sqeaky 9y ago
      Lightning Rods can prevent this.
      - protomyth 9y ago
        As I found out (not data center related) if the old barn / building down the road doesn’t have one, the fire can come a calling mighty quickly. On a data center note, I have noticed a couple of data centers hooked to dams with farms as their neighboring land. I guess hydro is pretty reliable.

FireBeyond 9y ago

It's not your problem until it is. I live in a "green" area, nice low threat. I'm also a volunteer firefighter. Last week I was at a brush fire in a semi urban area that got so bad so quickly that it prompted three choppers and the first time in this half of the state that a DC10 VLAT (very large aerial tanker) dropping retardant was deployed due to the threat to multiple residential and commercial structures, several of which were still lost. In the lowest threat classification area.

jschwartzi 9y ago
I remember the first time I saw a fire start from a discarded cigarette. The sight was awesome to behold, especially as it burned uphill on one side of a freeway. It's why I'm extremely paranoid about dousing anything that was once on fire. All it takes to start a fire is an idiot and a cigarette.