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It's not forgotten by the authorities! In the SF Bay Area the local air quality council subsidizes electric car chargers. EVs reduce the total pollution and mov

It's not forgotten by the authorities! In the SF Bay Area the local air quality council subsidizes electric car chargers. EVs reduce the total pollution and moves what's left out of the prone-to-atmospheric-inversions Bay Area.

zeristor 9y ago
CO2 is an issue, but not the only one, I was just annoyed the article didn't mention it. I would wear a gas mask to work, but they're no use.
virmundi 9y ago
Isn't ozone worse than traditional pollution and the main byproduct of electrical cars? So unless we go into a draconian charge laws, will cause more harm in this regard. http://www.iop.org/news/11/april/page_50606.html http://www.iop.org/news/11/april/page_50606.html
- greglindahl 9y ago
  I read that article as saying that power plants emit ozone. The ozone isn't emitted where the electric cars are. BTW a large source of ozone in the Bay Area and LA (both of which have big problems with it) is emissions from internal combustion vehicles. So, overall, electric vehicles are a big decrease in ozone in the inhabited areas of the West Coast.
- Reason077 9y ago
  NOx from diesel vehicles is by far the most significant source of ground-level ozone in most European cities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropospheric_ozone#Formation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropospheric_ozone#Formation
- zeristor 9y ago
  I thought that too, I studied the pollution maps of London, and it appears that NOx removes Ozone pollution, I was flummoxed for ages. Perhaps an Atmospheric Chemist can support this?
- pjc50 9y ago
  This is misleading - that article refers to ozone emitted from fossil power plants. Not the cars or chargers.
mcv 9y ago
In Amsterdam, the city creates an electric car parking spot (with charger) near your house if you get an electric car. This is effectively a private parking spot if you're the only electric car owner in the street, and that's incredibly valuable in a city where parking spots are hard to find.
- himlion 9y ago
  This will not scale as more and more people make use of this though. I agree it's a very strong incentive though.
  - greglindahl 9y ago
    The version that scales better is inexpensive pay charging stations.
    - ZenoArrow 9y ago
      Ubitricity is an example of such a scheme: http://youtu.be/rKaEhBjt1ls http://youtu.be/rKaEhBjt1ls
  - adrianN 9y ago
    It doesn't have to. It just needs to help electric cars reach the critical mass needed before companies enter the charging station market.
  - mcv 9y ago
    It's great for early adopters. Eventually, as everybody switches to electric, the advantage will disappear, but by then, everybody has switched to electric, so that's all good. And by then there will be a market for commercial charging stations, if they are necessary.
- davedx 9y ago
  Amsterdam is really charging ahead with environmental & climate change issues. I'm still glad I live in GLD and only work there, but it's leading the way in the Netherlands on multiple fronts. Really inspiring.

zeristor 9y ago

CO2 is an issue, but not the only one, I was just annoyed the article didn't mention it. I would wear a gas mask to work, but they're no use.

virmundi 9y ago

Isn't ozone worse than traditional pollution and the main byproduct of electrical cars? So unless we go into a draconian charge laws, will cause more harm in this regard. http://www.iop.org/news/11/april/page_50606.html http://www.iop.org/news/11/april/page_50606.html

greglindahl 9y ago
I read that article as saying that power plants emit ozone. The ozone isn't emitted where the electric cars are. BTW a large source of ozone in the Bay Area and LA (both of which have big problems with it) is emissions from internal combustion vehicles. So, overall, electric vehicles are a big decrease in ozone in the inhabited areas of the West Coast.
Reason077 9y ago
NOx from diesel vehicles is by far the most significant source of ground-level ozone in most European cities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropospheric_ozone#Formation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropospheric_ozone#Formation
zeristor 9y ago
I thought that too, I studied the pollution maps of London, and it appears that NOx removes Ozone pollution, I was flummoxed for ages. Perhaps an Atmospheric Chemist can support this?
pjc50 9y ago
This is misleading - that article refers to ozone emitted from fossil power plants. Not the cars or chargers.

mcv 9y ago

In Amsterdam, the city creates an electric car parking spot (with charger) near your house if you get an electric car. This is effectively a private parking spot if you're the only electric car owner in the street, and that's incredibly valuable in a city where parking spots are hard to find.

himlion 9y ago
This will not scale as more and more people make use of this though. I agree it's a very strong incentive though.
- greglindahl 9y ago
  The version that scales better is inexpensive pay charging stations.
  - ZenoArrow 9y ago
    Ubitricity is an example of such a scheme: http://youtu.be/rKaEhBjt1ls http://youtu.be/rKaEhBjt1ls
- adrianN 9y ago
  It doesn't have to. It just needs to help electric cars reach the critical mass needed before companies enter the charging station market.
- mcv 9y ago
  It's great for early adopters. Eventually, as everybody switches to electric, the advantage will disappear, but by then, everybody has switched to electric, so that's all good. And by then there will be a market for commercial charging stations, if they are necessary.
davedx 9y ago
Amsterdam is really charging ahead with environmental & climate change issues. I'm still glad I live in GLD and only work there, but it's leading the way in the Netherlands on multiple fronts. Really inspiring.