> So that leads you either to religion, or to the idea that somehow consciousness has to emerge from interactions of matter. Doesn't seem like they're mutually

> So that leads you either to religion, or to the idea that somehow consciousness has to emerge from interactions of matter. Doesn't seem like they're mutually exclusive. I mean, I'm pretty confident I can interact with some matter and produce another human. If or how God plays a role seems to be the unknown factor.