"No one starts off with programming, it's usually WYSIWYG or similar paradigms." Or Excel. People do the weirdest things with it, folks who would be perplexed

"No one starts off with programming, it's usually WYSIWYG or similar paradigms." Or Excel. People do the weirdest things with it, folks who would be perplexed if you suggested that their improvised use of a spreadsheet made them a hacker.