That disparaging attitude got to me as well. Honestly I made the switch to WoD back when it had the 6 point system, and never looked back ever since. Although I

That disparaging attitude got to me as well. Honestly I made the switch to WoD back when it had the 6 point system, and never looked back ever since. Although I haven't played it in many years, I loved how it didn't have levels, had a more identifiable setting, a more standard background for the whole universe, and how even a couple low ranking characters had a shot at taking down strong characters. Quite possibly the most creative setting WoD had was Wraith: the oblivion, yet it was the most unsuccessful financially, due to its complexity and heavy burden on the Story Teller compared to the other installments. We used to play it with two Story Tellers, one whispering into ears and one speaking out loud for a better experience.