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> The lame-ass protests Please, give me an example when ever in history a or a series of not-lame-ass protests did change something. G20 in Hamburg was a good

> The lame-ass protests Please, give me an example when ever in history a or a series of not-lame-ass protests did change something. G20 in Hamburg was a good example of several not-lame-ass protests which didn't lead to anything beyond violence and destruction. Absolutely nothing changed or started to change because of them.

Cozumel 9y ago
A protest by its very definition is 'lame ass'. When you protest you're accepting the status quo, that's why they're allowed even in places like Turkey and China. They're a steam valve for people to feel they're doing something then they go back to their television and Big Macs. For a protest to achieve something it has to have a goal, and the goal is always 'protesting', that doesn't change anything. If you want to overthrow the Government then go shoot your local senator[0], taking the kids and waving hand made protest signs at the local park isn't going to do sh*t. [0] It's an example. I'm in no way advocating anyone actually do this!
- rdiddly 9y ago
  You're getting downvoted but you've hit on something: Most of these protest movements are or aim to be nonviolent, whereas the power of the state is always ultimately projected via violence. For a protest or movement to have real impact, it has to either use violence itself (projecting political power directly), or it has to prepare for a sustained nonviolent absorption/withstanding of state violence (to get political power on its side). Either way you need a lot more determination, organization, sustained effort, and friends than it takes to organize a flash mob.
sunir 9y ago
It is about who is protesting. I will give MLK and Gandhi.
darepublic 9y ago
Many of these protests don't effect change because their cause is not worthy. They have no coherent message nor righteous cause as in mlk and gandhi.
honestoHeminway 9y ago
Eh, there are peacefull demos, which damage society even more. For example the bought Doctordemo in berlin. http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/die-gekaufte-demo/789302.html http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/die-gekaufte-demo/789302.h...

Cozumel 9y ago

A protest by its very definition is 'lame ass'. When you protest you're accepting the status quo, that's why they're allowed even in places like Turkey and China. They're a steam valve for people to feel they're doing something then they go back to their television and Big Macs. For a protest to achieve something it has to have a goal, and the goal is always 'protesting', that doesn't change anything. If you want to overthrow the Government then go shoot your local senator[0], taking the kids and waving hand made protest signs at the local park isn't going to do sh*t. [0] It's an example. I'm in no way advocating anyone actually do this!

rdiddly 9y ago
You're getting downvoted but you've hit on something: Most of these protest movements are or aim to be nonviolent, whereas the power of the state is always ultimately projected via violence. For a protest or movement to have real impact, it has to either use violence itself (projecting political power directly), or it has to prepare for a sustained nonviolent absorption/withstanding of state violence (to get political power on its side). Either way you need a lot more determination, organization, sustained effort, and friends than it takes to organize a flash mob.

sunir 9y ago

It is about who is protesting. I will give MLK and Gandhi.

darepublic 9y ago

Many of these protests don't effect change because their cause is not worthy. They have no coherent message nor righteous cause as in mlk and gandhi.

honestoHeminway 9y ago

Eh, there are peacefull demos, which damage society even more. For example the bought Doctordemo in berlin. http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/die-gekaufte-demo/789302.html http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/die-gekaufte-demo/789302.h...