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> the Grenfell Tower fire was a specific failure of building and fire regulations >This is independent of fixing the housing market or "neoliberalism". Removin

> the Grenfell Tower fire was a specific failure of building and fire regulations >This is independent of fixing the housing market or "neoliberalism". Removing/relaxing building and fire regulations is neoliberalism.

rwmj 9y ago
It was caused by stricter environmental rules introduced across the EU. Germany's fire regulations pre-dated these so they were allowed to keep their stricter fire regulations. So there's a problem here, but it's not "neoliberalism" (whatever that word even means). See this article which goes into the full details (and it's very complex): http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86512 http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86512
- lozenge 9y ago
  There are options that meet the environmental requirements and are fire resistant. They just cost a little more.
- anon1385 9y ago
  If you don't know what neoliberalism is then how were you so confidently able to claim that it wasn't to blame?
- StephenMelon 9y ago
  Have you examined your cognitive biases recently? It seems like you may stuck in a bit of a “deregulated free-market capitalism good, EU bad” loop that is preventing new information reaching you. The author’s point seems to be if you assess the cost of everything and the value of nothing, the market will price poor, unskilled workers who don’t have the finance to sue as disposable in the grand scheme of things. No-one actually verbalised “if we get this wrong, it won’t matter, because they’re poor” but that’s the dynamic that has been set up nationally and globally. The EU energy efficiency regulations are aimed at protecting the global environment, not individuals. The health and safety legislation is supposed to protect individuals. Are you suggesting that the buildings would not have been renovated if not for EU regulations? That seems extremely disingenuous.
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rwmj 9y ago

It was caused by stricter environmental rules introduced across the EU. Germany's fire regulations pre-dated these so they were allowed to keep their stricter fire regulations. So there's a problem here, but it's not "neoliberalism" (whatever that word even means). See this article which goes into the full details (and it's very complex): http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86512 http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86512

lozenge 9y ago
There are options that meet the environmental requirements and are fire resistant. They just cost a little more.
anon1385 9y ago
If you don't know what neoliberalism is then how were you so confidently able to claim that it wasn't to blame?
StephenMelon 9y ago
Have you examined your cognitive biases recently? It seems like you may stuck in a bit of a “deregulated free-market capitalism good, EU bad” loop that is preventing new information reaching you. The author’s point seems to be if you assess the cost of everything and the value of nothing, the market will price poor, unskilled workers who don’t have the finance to sue as disposable in the grand scheme of things. No-one actually verbalised “if we get this wrong, it won’t matter, because they’re poor” but that’s the dynamic that has been set up nationally and globally. The EU energy efficiency regulations are aimed at protecting the global environment, not individuals. The health and safety legislation is supposed to protect individuals. Are you suggesting that the buildings would not have been renovated if not for EU regulations? That seems extremely disingenuous.
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