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Wave certainly since it's a collaborative tool for people that want to get things done. Buzz is a twitter clone but we already have twitter so I didn't really u

Wave certainly since it's a collaborative tool for people that want to get things done. Buzz is a twitter clone but we already have twitter so I didn't really understand why they launched buzz in the first place.

ThomPete 16y ago
Wave is noise IMHO. The very fact that you can go back in history and replay, have multiple people talk together and the way that it's built up is not what I would consider cutting out the noise. But that might just be me.
- roc 16y ago
  Would you say that's more or less noisy than the email chain that exchanged and integrated as many changes and additions? A busy wave is noisy. But I think it can be quite an improvement over plain email.
  - ThomPete 16y ago
    I think the problem is that Google does great when it comes to behind the scene filtering. For instance their spam filter in gmail is almost flawless at least from my experience. Anything that's about algorithms being part of the design they are great. But they fail completely when it comes to allowing people to interact with each other. They simply don't have the design principles for that. It's not part of their DNA.
    - roc 16y ago
      I don't think that's fair at all. Google docs, gmail, gchat - these are all inherently about interaction and they're great. What Google doesn't do successfully, is frame those interactions to make their own network "sticky". It's those second-order interactions ("likes", "reblogging", "fans", "mayor", etc) that Google doesn't seem to get traction with. But that's a very different thing than enabling interaction.
      - ThomPete 16y ago
        There is absolutely nothing elegant about the interaction of googles products IMHO. What is elegant is the stuff that goes on behind the scences. But the actual interaction part could be improved quite a lot.
        jacabado 16y ago
        The proudly presented see-as-you-type Wave feature is a major example of what you are saying. Real people hated it because it was distractive, annoying and embarassing but they never tought about that because it showed their big technical achievement: the wavelet syncronization in real-time. REAL-TIME!!

ThomPete 16y ago

Wave is noise IMHO. The very fact that you can go back in history and replay, have multiple people talk together and the way that it's built up is not what I would consider cutting out the noise. But that might just be me.

roc 16y ago
Would you say that's more or less noisy than the email chain that exchanged and integrated as many changes and additions? A busy wave is noisy. But I think it can be quite an improvement over plain email.
- ThomPete 16y ago
  I think the problem is that Google does great when it comes to behind the scene filtering. For instance their spam filter in gmail is almost flawless at least from my experience. Anything that's about algorithms being part of the design they are great. But they fail completely when it comes to allowing people to interact with each other. They simply don't have the design principles for that. It's not part of their DNA.
  - roc 16y ago
    I don't think that's fair at all. Google docs, gmail, gchat - these are all inherently about interaction and they're great. What Google doesn't do successfully, is frame those interactions to make their own network "sticky". It's those second-order interactions ("likes", "reblogging", "fans", "mayor", etc) that Google doesn't seem to get traction with. But that's a very different thing than enabling interaction.
    - ThomPete 16y ago
      There is absolutely nothing elegant about the interaction of googles products IMHO. What is elegant is the stuff that goes on behind the scences. But the actual interaction part could be improved quite a lot.
      - jacabado 16y ago
        The proudly presented see-as-you-type Wave feature is a major example of what you are saying. Real people hated it because it was distractive, annoying and embarassing but they never tought about that because it showed their big technical achievement: the wavelet syncronization in real-time. REAL-TIME!!