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A small sized business jet charters for about $1,000 an hour. I'd guess a long 737 would go for between $10,000 and $25,000 an hour. Edit: Here are some charte

A small sized business jet charters for about $1,000 an hour. I'd guess a long 737 would go for between $10,000 and $25,000 an hour. Edit: Here are some charter prices: http://www.aircharterguide.com/Aircraft/Manufacturer/BOEING http://www.aircharterguide.com/Aircraft/Manufacturer/BOEING

KGIII 9y ago
With charter, you skip the TSA. It can even make financial sense, of you're a group and were going to fly first class. Also, a buddy who has a plane time share is handy. Given where I live, I know a bunch of pilots. The time share plane was new to me. That's kinda need and not that expensive.
sokoloff 9y ago
Conklin and de Decker are a respected (though not perfect) source for variable operating costs for various airframes. They list the various BBJs (which are based on 737s) at $5360-$5749 per hour. https://www.conklindd.com/ReportTemp/ACEWebReports/_%20BBJ_%20BBJ%202_%20BBJ%203_2017082520125160.PDF https://www.conklindd.com/ReportTemp/ACEWebReports/_%20BBJ_%... BBJ3 is based on the 737-900ER
- ethbro 9y ago
  Thanks! So that looks like ~$26,125 for a 4.75 hr flight in pure costs (fuel, plane and engine maintainence) exclusive of crew pay. If the numbers are totalling the line items above. So call it around $50k all included. Depreciation doesn't look like it's in that number either, but I'd say that's probably ignorable when you're as heavily utilized as a major carrier plane is. That seems like a good ballpark number for something a carrier would agree to. Not something to do every day, but arguably worth the PR and not going to torpedo the company either.
  - sokoloff 9y ago
    The CdD figures usually do include crew costs, so they attempt to be "all-in" numbers, minus cost of financing. The reason they're $0 on the report you're looking at is they're trying to sell you the report with the actual figures, not that those costs haven't been included. Crew rates for majors are published. Here's Alaska's: http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/legacy/alaska_airlines http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/legacy/alaska_ai... Call the flight crew $300/hr, and the cabin crew probably another $150/hr.
    - ethbro 9y ago
      Ah, was confused as they lined them up below the total line, so was assuming they might break them out.

KGIII 9y ago

With charter, you skip the TSA. It can even make financial sense, of you're a group and were going to fly first class. Also, a buddy who has a plane time share is handy. Given where I live, I know a bunch of pilots. The time share plane was new to me. That's kinda need and not that expensive.

sokoloff 9y ago

Conklin and de Decker are a respected (though not perfect) source for variable operating costs for various airframes. They list the various BBJs (which are based on 737s) at $5360-$5749 per hour. https://www.conklindd.com/ReportTemp/ACEWebReports/_%20BBJ_%20BBJ%202_%20BBJ%203_2017082520125160.PDF https://www.conklindd.com/ReportTemp/ACEWebReports/_%20BBJ_%... BBJ3 is based on the 737-900ER

ethbro 9y ago
Thanks! So that looks like ~$26,125 for a 4.75 hr flight in pure costs (fuel, plane and engine maintainence) exclusive of crew pay. If the numbers are totalling the line items above. So call it around $50k all included. Depreciation doesn't look like it's in that number either, but I'd say that's probably ignorable when you're as heavily utilized as a major carrier plane is. That seems like a good ballpark number for something a carrier would agree to. Not something to do every day, but arguably worth the PR and not going to torpedo the company either.
- sokoloff 9y ago
  The CdD figures usually do include crew costs, so they attempt to be "all-in" numbers, minus cost of financing. The reason they're $0 on the report you're looking at is they're trying to sell you the report with the actual figures, not that those costs haven't been included. Crew rates for majors are published. Here's Alaska's: http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/legacy/alaska_airlines http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/legacy/alaska_ai... Call the flight crew $300/hr, and the cabin crew probably another $150/hr.
  - ethbro 9y ago
    Ah, was confused as they lined them up below the total line, so was assuming they might break them out.