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The results for metformin in animal studies are all over the map, with many studies showing no results on life span or health span. A great many people have tak
by reasonattlm 9y ago
The results for metformin in animal studies are all over the map, with many studies showing no results on life span or health span. A great many people have taken metformin for a long time with no great and obvious results. Short-lived species have far more plastic life spans in response to metabolic adjustment in comparison to humans; the two most reliable and sizable effects on mice (growth hormone receptor knockout and calorie restriction) do not have similarly sizable effects in humans. Laron syndrome sufferers and calorie restriction practitioners do not live significantly longer than others.
The one and only reason why metformin is getting into trials is as a political lever to get the FDA to acknowledge aging as a medical condition with defined causes for which treatments will be approved. Metformin couldn't really be rejected in the way the FDA likes to reject a lot of things because it is so widely used and has been so widely used for a long time.
The future of human longevity is not tinkering with metabolism to try to push it to be a little more like calorie restricted metabolism. That is a waste of time and effort. It is enormously expensive to carry out the work to try to understand metabolism well enough to adjust it safely. Hell, look at the past 20 years of work on calorie restriction: how much has been spent, how many man-years focused on it, and the research community is still only scratching the surface on how to induce similar effects via therapies.
Yet there is another approach, one that is far more cost-effective in time and money. Repair the causes of aging. Look at removal of senescent cells: in a bare few years, and at far less cost than has been spent on calorie restriction mimetic development, researchers have demonstrated robust effects and reversal of numerous age-related conditions in mice. Unlike metformin and similar drugs, the results are consistent, sizable, and produce rejuvenation in old individuals, not just a slight slowing of aging.
There is an enormous difference between the bad way forward (typified by metformin) and the good way forward (typified by senolytics). In the former we all die on the same schedule as our parents and grandparents. In the latter we can gain decades or more of additional healthy life.
- deegles 9y agoCould you post some links? Any idea when these therapies will hit human trials?
- reasonattlm 9y agoAnd further, whenever anyone turns up to say "metformin is great", just point them at the studies showing that aspirin does a fair job of extending healthy life span in a variety of laboratory species. Arguably the aspirin life span studies show more consistent results than metformin, though there are fewer of them. And we all know what aspirin does for human life span. For senolytic therapies, look at Unity Biotechnology's pharmaceutical trials starting this year, Oisin Biotechnologies' gene therapy approach, SIWA Therapeutics with an antibody approach. There are a dozen or so candidate drugs worth looking at, in addition to the non-drug approaches. If you have the connections you can order any of the various senolytic pharmaceuticals today and try them. Though this would be unwise for the chemotherapeutics with animal data, since they are not friendly compounds, and worth waiting for a year or two to see how more targeted things like FOXO4-DRI work out in human tests. A year or two from now will be a great time for self-experimentation on this front, given the range of candidates and the size of the effects in mice where there is data. Today the situation is in an awkward state where some of the easier pharmaceuticals to handle are either going to have tiny effects or have no animal data, while the others still need human data. Still, I would expect medical tourism to flourish for these things quite soon: the drugs are cheap, the beneficial effects sizable.
- wavefunction 9y agoI'm allergic to aspirin so an alternative is nice.
- Aron 9y agoYou got Samter's like me (AERD)? No fun.