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Should we not be outraged though? Everything listed in both the patent and the grandparent is worrying to me. I feel like I owe 80% of my identity to my activit

by Taek 9y ago

Should we not be outraged though? Everything listed in both the patent and the grandparent is worrying to me. I feel like I owe 80% of my identity to my activities and time on the Internet. Many my age feel the same. My home is under attack.

dingo_bat 9y ago
The thing is that it has been under attack for a long time now, and acting as if some new threat is active is disingenuous and partisan.
- SomeStupidPoint 9y ago
  I don't think people are acting as if it's a new threat, but rather alarmed that it's reached the levels it has. That is new, even if it has been ramping up a long time.
  - to_bpr 9y ago
    What stands out to me personally about this is that I'm 99% sure the administration could have silently achieved the same results through a FISA ordered warrant, but chose to go public in what I'm perceiving to be sending a message. The Obama administration also sent messages but they seem to have been ignored willingly or not. Remember when the intelligence services entered the offices of the free press in the U.K. and forced the destruction of computer equipment? The warning signs have been here for years. If the loud mouthed Trump is what triggers a movement to change things then so be it.
    - willstrafach 9y ago
      > Remember when the intelligence services entered the offices of the free press in the U.K. and forced the destruction of computer equipment? This was not under any direction from President Obama, this was GCHQ as most of the Snowden leaks were their documents.
gasof 9y ago
It is outrageous, but the adult thing to do is to control your outrage and channel it with as much rationality, honesty and balance as you can muster. More outrage supports the escalation of more repression from the left and more resistance from the right. Outrage creates both Marxists and Nazi's, and IMO both are harmful forces if given too much attention and power. I perceive fascism as the enemy, and both the far-left and the far-right are fascist. We should strive for deescalation and respect for the individual over the group.
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by Taek 9y ago

dingo_bat 9y ago

The thing is that it has been under attack for a long time now, and acting as if some new threat is active is disingenuous and partisan.

SomeStupidPoint 9y ago
I don't think people are acting as if it's a new threat, but rather alarmed that it's reached the levels it has. That is new, even if it has been ramping up a long time.
- to_bpr 9y ago
  What stands out to me personally about this is that I'm 99% sure the administration could have silently achieved the same results through a FISA ordered warrant, but chose to go public in what I'm perceiving to be sending a message. The Obama administration also sent messages but they seem to have been ignored willingly or not. Remember when the intelligence services entered the offices of the free press in the U.K. and forced the destruction of computer equipment? The warning signs have been here for years. If the loud mouthed Trump is what triggers a movement to change things then so be it.
  - willstrafach 9y ago
    > Remember when the intelligence services entered the offices of the free press in the U.K. and forced the destruction of computer equipment? This was not under any direction from President Obama, this was GCHQ as most of the Snowden leaks were their documents.

gasof 9y ago

It is outrageous, but the adult thing to do is to control your outrage and channel it with as much rationality, honesty and balance as you can muster. More outrage supports the escalation of more repression from the left and more resistance from the right. Outrage creates both Marxists and Nazi's, and IMO both are harmful forces if given too much attention and power. I perceive fascism as the enemy, and both the far-left and the far-right are fascist. We should strive for deescalation and respect for the individual over the group.

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