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Then how come our salaries are so high in the bay area? There is certainly a geographic shortage at least, right? Perhaps those people in the UK need to move

by stale2002 9y ago

Then how come our salaries are so high in the bay area? There is certainly a geographic shortage at least, right? Perhaps those people in the UK need to move to a location where their skills are more in demand.

foldr 9y ago
That's easier said than done. Which visa do I get if I'm a British citizen who wants to work in the US? The only realistic option is the H1B. This requires me to have a job offer already, can only be applied for at a certain time of year, and makes switching jobs a pain once I'm there. All the other visas either (i) have no path to residency or (ii) are very difficult to get.
romanovcode 9y ago
> bay area > Perhaps those people in the UK need to move to a location It is very difficult and tedious process to go to work from EU to US. Also, most EU residents don't even want to live in US.
- varjag 9y ago
  First world problem if there is any. It's a lot easier than from most of non-EU world: at least you can hop on the plane for a job interview without fussing with visas. If one can't be arsed to move there's always an option to remain unemployed.
  - romanovcode 9y ago
    The problem is that for a company to justify giving H1B visa the candidate must be really good. I'm not so sure that those 13% unemployed are really good.
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  - foldr 9y ago
    Huh? The main difficulty lies in getting authorization to work in the US, and EU citizens don't get any kind of preferential treatment in the visa application process. Remote interviewing is easy now. We have Skype, hangouts, etc.
sidlls 9y ago
First, our salaries aren't high compared to the value we generate for these companies. Second, the relatively higher salaries we get out here are driven by two things: 1) the number of companies competing for talent and 2) the artificial scarcity induced by how they define the arena of competition (over-focus on "CS fundamentals" and under-focus on engineering fundamentals).
- stale2002 9y ago
  If demand is high, because of a large amount of companies that are competing for talent... And supply is low enough that it can't fulfill that demand, then that is a shortage. Supply being unable to fulfill a large amount of demand is the definition of a shortage.

foldr 9y ago

That's easier said than done. Which visa do I get if I'm a British citizen who wants to work in the US? The only realistic option is the H1B. This requires me to have a job offer already, can only be applied for at a certain time of year, and makes switching jobs a pain once I'm there. All the other visas either (i) have no path to residency or (ii) are very difficult to get.

romanovcode 9y ago

> bay area > Perhaps those people in the UK need to move to a location It is very difficult and tedious process to go to work from EU to US. Also, most EU residents don't even want to live in US.

varjag 9y ago
First world problem if there is any. It's a lot easier than from most of non-EU world: at least you can hop on the plane for a job interview without fussing with visas. If one can't be arsed to move there's always an option to remain unemployed.
- romanovcode 9y ago
  The problem is that for a company to justify giving H1B visa the candidate must be really good. I'm not so sure that those 13% unemployed are really good.
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- foldr 9y ago
  Huh? The main difficulty lies in getting authorization to work in the US, and EU citizens don't get any kind of preferential treatment in the visa application process. Remote interviewing is easy now. We have Skype, hangouts, etc.

sidlls 9y ago

First, our salaries aren't high compared to the value we generate for these companies. Second, the relatively higher salaries we get out here are driven by two things: 1) the number of companies competing for talent and 2) the artificial scarcity induced by how they define the arena of competition (over-focus on "CS fundamentals" and under-focus on engineering fundamentals).

stale2002 9y ago
If demand is high, because of a large amount of companies that are competing for talent... And supply is low enough that it can't fulfill that demand, then that is a shortage. Supply being unable to fulfill a large amount of demand is the definition of a shortage.