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If you're referring to this one[1], most people were saying that it's pretty much impossible for an average developer to make 100-300k Euros per year. London se

If you're referring to this one[1], most people were saying that it's pretty much impossible for an average developer to make 100-300k Euros per year. London seemed to be where it might be possible in certain industries. But England is a lot more than a few hundred kilometers away. (1300 or 1500 km depending on whether you're flying or driving) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15088840 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15088840

dejv 9y ago
70k to 80k in Vienna is still quite possible for average developer. Sure it is not 250k, but cross the border and 30k might be something like dream salary. I am not judging the situation. Companies did use the market condition and do pay good local wages.
- dep_b 9y ago
  > 70k to 80k in Vienna is still quite possible for average developer. Nobody gets that in The Netherlands. Unless you're a freelance consultant with critical knowledge.
  - niftich 9y ago
    Well, it's Vienna (although those amounts seem high to me), where the cost of living is higher, but Bratislava is well within commuting distance -- both by car and train -- enabling a decent opportunity to live and have daily expenses in a cheaper country while earning in one that pays better.
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  - muro 9y ago
    I thought I saw some people from booking.com saying they get that in Netherlands.
  - roel_v 9y ago
    I won't say it's an 'average' salary in nl, but if you have 10+ years experience in something not-trivial, you need to push harder if you're not getting paid this. Sure, nobody's advertising these rates, but as so many things financial in the Netherlands, things are not what they seem at the surface...
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    - dep_b 9y ago
      > if you have 10+ years experience in something not-trivial Yeah that sounds an awful lot like having critical knowledge. But 72k is not what an "average developer" would earn in The Netherlands, not even the average senior developer (I'd say something around 4000 per month?). > you need to push harder if you're not getting paid this Preaching to the choir here ;) But maybe that's why we never heard about big software companies from Vienna then? If they have to pay average mid-career programmers 72k? ;)
  - dejv 9y ago
    average salary != average developer. What I had in mind is that if developer plan his career right you can get those salaries in quite a lot of places without requiring being genius.
- muro 9y ago
  Worked in Vienna for a few years - no, I don't think it's "quite possible for average developer", unless salaries increased rapidly recently. There are probably people earning that, but not "average developers".

dejv 9y ago

70k to 80k in Vienna is still quite possible for average developer. Sure it is not 250k, but cross the border and 30k might be something like dream salary. I am not judging the situation. Companies did use the market condition and do pay good local wages.

dep_b 9y ago
> 70k to 80k in Vienna is still quite possible for average developer. Nobody gets that in The Netherlands. Unless you're a freelance consultant with critical knowledge.
- niftich 9y ago
  Well, it's Vienna (although those amounts seem high to me), where the cost of living is higher, but Bratislava is well within commuting distance -- both by car and train -- enabling a decent opportunity to live and have daily expenses in a cheaper country while earning in one that pays better.
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- muro 9y ago
  I thought I saw some people from booking.com saying they get that in Netherlands.
- roel_v 9y ago
  I won't say it's an 'average' salary in nl, but if you have 10+ years experience in something not-trivial, you need to push harder if you're not getting paid this. Sure, nobody's advertising these rates, but as so many things financial in the Netherlands, things are not what they seem at the surface...
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  - dep_b 9y ago
    > if you have 10+ years experience in something not-trivial Yeah that sounds an awful lot like having critical knowledge. But 72k is not what an "average developer" would earn in The Netherlands, not even the average senior developer (I'd say something around 4000 per month?). > you need to push harder if you're not getting paid this Preaching to the choir here ;) But maybe that's why we never heard about big software companies from Vienna then? If they have to pay average mid-career programmers 72k? ;)
- dejv 9y ago
  average salary != average developer. What I had in mind is that if developer plan his career right you can get those salaries in quite a lot of places without requiring being genius.
muro 9y ago
Worked in Vienna for a few years - no, I don't think it's "quite possible for average developer", unless salaries increased rapidly recently. There are probably people earning that, but not "average developers".