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This is an example of a lazy argument for not being taken from a real-world case that isn't an outlier, and one that is compatible with the image of police por
by Zigurd 9y ago
This is an example of a lazy argument for not being taken from a real-world case that isn't an outlier, and one that is compatible with the image of police portrayed on cop shows, so people are conditioned to glom onto it.
It also ignores cases where private security has to deal with violent drunks (not an outlier at all) without tasers.
And this is how poor police performance in the US continues to get a pass.
- sokoloff 9y agoGP called for a hypothetical example. I provided. I'm sorry that you feel that's lazy. Would you share with us how you'd prefer the police to handle that situation?
- pjc50 9y agoThe UK police would handle it with a combination of CS spray and side-handled batons. https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/sites/default/files/files/disclosure-logs/2014_218_foi2014514185_use_of_force_policy2.pdf https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/sites/default/files/file... actually provides a worked example, including the paperwork you need to fill out after whacking someone in the head.
- Zigurd 9y agoI explained that by way of pointing out the omission of addressing how private security manages to do their job without sometimes fatal electric torture devices.
- sokoloff 9y agoPrivate security usually has the advantage that they are only concerned with getting the subject off/out of their property. If it gets more than they can handle, they call the police. The police have to handle the situation with realistically no backstop and don't have the luxury of calling it quits when the problem moves over some arbitrary line on a map.
- Zigurd 9y agoNo backstop? Deescalation, backing off, and calling for sufficient help to handle a situation with a minimum of violence is exactly how better-performing police in civilized places do it.