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Ugh. I hate to be the guy to defend him, but watch a YouTube video of the guy. He's just a troll. He doesn't hate poor people. He hates the media... I don't rea

Ugh. I hate to be the guy to defend him, but watch a YouTube video of the guy. He's just a troll. He doesn't hate poor people. He hates the media... I don't really want to explain why but there's a video of him talking to an 18 yr old kid and it became obvious he wasn't evil, he's just a dick for sport to people that want to make him look evil. I put down my pitchfork at that point.

colemickens 9y ago
And what do you have to say to those who were sick and suffered for their health or their wallet because of this guy's trolling? I'm sick of hearing "he's just a troll". He, and many others labeled as "just trolls" cause material harm to people. Not to mention he was found guilty of fraud, not of being a troll.
JeremyBanks 9y ago
This is morally absurd. He is "a dick for sport" to say the very least, and is entirely unmoved to the harm he causes other. Having an ironic affectation doesn't somehow mean you're not evil, it just means you aren't willing to directly face how bad you are. Many people we describe as evil are similar and it earns him no slack.
- setr 9y ago
  I'm not aware of any harm he caused; the $600 medicine thing could have harmed the uninsured I suppose, but being uninsured already means you'll get fucked by any medical bills anyways. So the fucked stay fucked, and he didn't change much to that equation. Afaik no, or few, new fucked people exist by that action. The event should have brought attention to the absurd dependence on insurance Americans have to have, and the fact that it gets worse by a positive feedback loop (as insurance companies extend their "benefit" range, the relevant market increases their price to make use it, so more people need to get insurance to see "proper" pricing, which means insurance now has enough power/money to further increase their "benefits"). Afaik he just participated in the feedback loop, but made no effort to affect it (nor should he; its a macro-level government-scale problem)
  - GcVmvNhBsU 9y ago
    http://www.teenvogue.com/story/online-harassment-lauren-duca-thigh-high-politics http://www.teenvogue.com/story/online-harassment-lauren-duca... Read this article. Seriously. Ignoring any potential "actual" harm his business practices may have inflicted, he is a toxic person who doesn't care what his effects his trolling has in the real world. He's inspiring people to threaten and harass people online. Someone took pizzagate seriously enough to act on it in the real world - how long until someone does the same here and shows up at Lauren's or her parent's house, or actually rapes her?
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fenwick67 9y ago
He doesn't hate poor people, he just doesn't mind making lots of money at their expense. You say he's a "dick for sport" but you forgot to add "and also for money".
pavel_lishin 9y ago
> he wasn't evil, he's just a dick for sport I'm not entirely sure how you define evil, but it seems to be very different from how I do it.
Jordrok 9y ago
“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.” ― Kurt Vonnegut Jr., Mother Night
eridius 9y ago
Oh I see, he didn't jack up the price of medication by absurd amounts because he was trying to make money, he was just trolling the media! /sarcasm

colemickens 9y ago

And what do you have to say to those who were sick and suffered for their health or their wallet because of this guy's trolling? I'm sick of hearing "he's just a troll". He, and many others labeled as "just trolls" cause material harm to people. Not to mention he was found guilty of fraud, not of being a troll.

JeremyBanks 9y ago

This is morally absurd. He is "a dick for sport" to say the very least, and is entirely unmoved to the harm he causes other. Having an ironic affectation doesn't somehow mean you're not evil, it just means you aren't willing to directly face how bad you are. Many people we describe as evil are similar and it earns him no slack.

setr 9y ago
I'm not aware of any harm he caused; the $600 medicine thing could have harmed the uninsured I suppose, but being uninsured already means you'll get fucked by any medical bills anyways. So the fucked stay fucked, and he didn't change much to that equation. Afaik no, or few, new fucked people exist by that action. The event should have brought attention to the absurd dependence on insurance Americans have to have, and the fact that it gets worse by a positive feedback loop (as insurance companies extend their "benefit" range, the relevant market increases their price to make use it, so more people need to get insurance to see "proper" pricing, which means insurance now has enough power/money to further increase their "benefits"). Afaik he just participated in the feedback loop, but made no effort to affect it (nor should he; its a macro-level government-scale problem)
- GcVmvNhBsU 9y ago
  http://www.teenvogue.com/story/online-harassment-lauren-duca-thigh-high-politics http://www.teenvogue.com/story/online-harassment-lauren-duca... Read this article. Seriously. Ignoring any potential "actual" harm his business practices may have inflicted, he is a toxic person who doesn't care what his effects his trolling has in the real world. He's inspiring people to threaten and harass people online. Someone took pizzagate seriously enough to act on it in the real world - how long until someone does the same here and shows up at Lauren's or her parent's house, or actually rapes her?
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fenwick67 9y ago

He doesn't hate poor people, he just doesn't mind making lots of money at their expense. You say he's a "dick for sport" but you forgot to add "and also for money".

pavel_lishin 9y ago

> he wasn't evil, he's just a dick for sport I'm not entirely sure how you define evil, but it seems to be very different from how I do it.

Jordrok 9y ago

“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.” ― Kurt Vonnegut Jr., Mother Night

eridius 9y ago

Oh I see, he didn't jack up the price of medication by absurd amounts because he was trying to make money, he was just trolling the media! /sarcasm